[Topper’s Interview] Raj Kamal Yadav (AIR-21/CSE-2012): First attempt, No coaching, Veterinary Science & Zoology

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  1. Bio
  2. Coaching
  3. Inception
  4. Information
  5. Study-Momentum
  6. Strategy: CSAT (Aptitude)
  7. Strategy: GS
  8. Mains 2013
  9. Optional Subject: Veterinary Science
  10. Optional Subject: Zoology
  11. Optional Subject in Mains 2013?
  12. Compulsory papers
  13. Essay
  14. Insecurity  about “Profile”
  15. Career Backup
  16. Family and Friends
  17. Interview
  18. Marksheet
  19. Wisdom
  20. Bogus marketing propaganda

Bio

NameRAJ KAMAL YADAV
Roll number464985
Rank (CSE 2012)21
Optional Subjects
  1. Veterinary Science
  2. Zoology
Number of AttemptsFirst
Medium for Mains ExamEnglish
Schooling (Medium)English
Centre for Prelim examDelhi
Centre for Mains examDelhi
Name of home town/cityShikohabad (UP)

Edu

% in class 1080.6
% in class 1273.2
Graduation course and %B.V.Sc & A .H

86.9 %

Name of college and year of passing outMADRAS VETERINARY COLLEGE, CHENNAI

2011

PG (if applicable)CURRENTLY DOING IN VETERINARY SURGERY 1st yr

FROM IVRI BAREILLY

Extra C

  1. Football is my passion played for school , college ,university, IPSC.
  2. NCC
  3. Did my externship in Michigan State university, USA on university scholarship
  4. Prefer factual reading rather than fiction
  5. Coin collection is my hobby

Family background

  • Father – Bank Manager
  • Mother – Social Activist
  • Brother (Younger) – IIM –INDORE
  • My Family And Friends (SAC ,SKB,SWATI ,INDU, UJJWAL,P.BABU )are my strength-they always believed in me.

Coaching

Did you join any Coaching?NO but I gave a few mock interviews
Did you join any postal courses?NO
Did you join any Mock test series?NO.only stuff available online and free.
Did you appear in any other competitive exams?

Provide details including success and failures.

Nothing at graduate level .after 10+2 many that is a long story .i will only say THAT MY JOURNEY IS MY REWARD

Inception

AIR 21-CSE-2012-RK Yadav

Every successful candidate has many things to say about his inspiration and all blah blah blah. My dream was to be a fighter pilot as I was a SAINIK school product but life took a U-turn and on joining graduation I decided that highest administrative service is my target. During this tenure many people inspired me. The most important fact was that fire which the comments of people created in me after my initial failures- Many said “ban gaye collector”, came back home I kept that fire alive all these years and now GOD has shown his mercy and blessings upon me. Other than that my senior UJJWAL KUMAR (IAS prob) always motivated me and his grand success worked as the final push and continuous push of my friends (Sac and Indu) helped me a lot.

Information

Q. Outside Delhi, it’s hard to dig how to prepare for civil service. So How did you gather the necessary information / strategy / booklist?

Ans. Seniors were a big help for this.and I was in Chennai, did’t realize the emptiness of not being in Delhi moreover I think now a days it does’t matter which city you are staying in .there is almost all the info available online.best e.g  mrunal.org

Strategy was very simple finish of basic GS like history geo polity and full syllabus of optional  in graduation itself later I focused on PT specially paper 2 I was confident to do well in it as my GS was just average.

Study-Momentum

Q. People initially prepare with much enthusiasm but then a boredom phase comes – they don’t even find the motivation to read the daily newspapers, let alone studying the books.  How did you sustain the study-momentum and fought the mood swings throughout the journey?

Ans. You pointed out this thing very accurately it does happen and happened with me too I think group study which we were having in college helped me a lot moreover I never prepared for UPSC solo. I was always having course curriculum and the stuff viz. exams, assignments etc etc which prevented my preparation from being a monotonous routine, and as I was spending more time in it I was having an inner urge that yaar I wasted so much time here now let’s make up for it and  study more.

Other than that I used to play and watch all my favourite series I think keeping fun as a part of life during preparation helped me.

Hours

Q. On an average, How many hours did you study per day?

Ans.  3-4hrs max, but for august to oct I managed 8-10 hrs(min)

Q. How many months did it take you to complete the core syllabus of GS and optional subjects?

Ans. For  GS I think 3-4 months. For zoology I took a long time, for veterinary science 1month as it was my core subject

Strategy: CSAT (Aptitude)

TopicBooks/sources
MathsNothing specific, just revised all basic formulas and concepts of 9 to 12
ReasoningDid some stuff from my old RS Agarwal and my brother’s CAT stuff.your website and blog.
ComprehensionMy brother’s CAT stuff and passages from whatever site google used to flash
Decision makingUr website and my gut feeling as I was told that finally it’s you who should believe in your answer
  • I think mrunal.org have wonderful stuff to prepare for aptitude.
  • For comprehension the more u read it will be useful. I usually follow remove the garbage trick and keep a road map of whole passage in mind. Read questions to be answered even before starting the passage never miss marking your probable answers in passage understand the difference between inference, assumption, conclusion, theme, refernce because very often answer changes according to these terms being asked or mentioned in questions.
  • And finally read as fast as you can, because here all that matters is time.so PRACTICE
  • For decision making. I didn’t follow any strategy, only gut feeling .it worked for me.

Strategy: GS

Book/ source
HistoryAncientNCERT
MedievalNCERT
ModernNCERT,SPECTRUM,BIPIN CHANDRA
CultureSPECTRUM,NIOS STUFF ,mrunal.org
MainsSame as above
PolityBasicsLaxmikantan
CurrentChronicle,Hindu
mainsagain same thing
EconomyBasicsRAMESH SINGH
CurrentCHRONICLE+ HINDU
mainsSome notes from coachings my seniors notes.and current issues from economic times
GeographyPhysicalNcert and that book from oxford lenchong(name is very confusing for me)
IndianOnly ncert
WorldNothing specific
mainsJust revised old stuff and chronicle issue
Environment, BiodiversityBasicsNothing specific just hindu and chronicle ,mrunal.org
CurrentDo
MainsDo
Science TechBasicsHindu and chronicle and mrunal.org
CurrentHindu
MainsSame
Yearbook / Govt. schemes etc.Various ministry websites , india year book., prsindia.org, pib.nic.in
IR/diplomacyHindu alone

I was focusing more on my optionals so for GS I just revised the old stuff I have read for PT

To be more precise I mainly focused on polity and economy as I felt that chances of scoring with preciseness was more in these two subjects, for rest others I just read through the core syllabus

Mains 2013

Changed syllabus warrant a very good strategy for GS .because without it just forget selection.

Moreover I have not given much time over planning for the revised syllabus but as far as the syllabus is published I think UPSC has just elaborated the previous syllabus with more headings and sub headings with few additions like world history and disaster management etc so for GS preparation things will not be that much new and surprising .but the weightage which is given to it will attract more time and attention.

Optional Subject: Veterinary Science

  • My college notes.
  • Booklist is exhaustive and I almost got everything compiled in college itself.
  • Left over topics were covered from websites and notes which my seniors already had.
  • This is a very specialized subject and people who will be taking it as an optional will be professional students of this subjects so things will not be that much difficult to them, but still if this has to be an optional one need to prepare it in graduation itself or else the voluminous syllabus is very difficult to cover
  • please do not commit a mistake of omitting strange single word topics! because UPSC is asking lot of questions from unconventional areas of syllabus.

Optional Subject: Zoology

  1. Kotpal ( vertebrates and invertebrates )
  2. Armugam (vertebrates and invertebrates)
  3. Genetics ,ecology ,molecular biology from P S VERMA
  4. Evolution from ARMUGAM and BEER BALA RASTOGI
  5. Animal behavior  – Reena Mathur
  6. Some coaching note from delhi.(for economic zoology and instrumentation)
  7. Notes from my seniors .

Optional Subject in Mains 2013?

Q. Instead of two, now UPSC will have only one optional subject. So if you were to give Mains 2013, which optional would you keep and why?

Ans. I would have taken VETERINAY SCIENCE as I m comfortable with it and will be able to manage the question paper without devoting much time for preparation. The changed syllabus require more attention on GS  so selecting an optional with which you are more comfortable is very  important

Compulsory papers

Q. Your booklist/strategy for compulsory Regional language paper.

Nothing just usual reading

Q. Your booklist/strategy for compulsory English language paper.

Nothing just usual reading

Essay

Q. How did you prepare yourself for the essay?

I used to write down important points out of articles and memorized some universal quotations that’s all.

Q. Which Essay did you write in Mains-2012?

The one on PPP.

Q.Provide some keypoints/highlights of your Essay.

I  divided my essay into many sections like

  • What PPP actually is ?
  • How the idea came into inception of the govt .
  • I gave lot of examples of various projects on PPP model and their success story Yamuna express way, e-loo ,airports etc
  • In a small segment I wrote about the failures but pointed it in the name of implementation failure rather than policy failure

Overall I was in a strong support of the model and no where in my text I have contradicted my thinking and views about the success of PPP. (SCORE: 87 marks)

Insecurity  about “Profile”

Q. Many aspirants have the (unnecessary) fear of interview, thinking that “my profile is not good because  I’ve low score in class 10/12/college/ I’m from unknown college, I’ve no work experience etc.etc.etc.”   What is your message to them?

Ans. I think profile do matter but not to a level where It should make someone insecure, the bigger the profile the bigger the risk and the bigger the expectation of board .final out come a big fall if u are not able to justify yourself, you will turn out be a liar in front of board, so a medium profile is most advantageous.

This is my personal opinion it could be this way or that way

Almost 60 % interview was from my profile

I didn’t find any question uncomfortable but at certain points I was not able to convince the board on my views but somehow things were pleasant in the room.

Career Backup

I would have continued my career as a veterinary surgeon I love the profession

Family and Friends

Q. Behind one topper are many people who stood by him/her during those uncertain times when he/she was merely an ‘aspirant’. Would you like to tell the world, who were those people in your case? Any specific motivational/inspiration incidence that you would like to share with the readers?

Ans. First of all thanks Mr Patel for giving me this opportunity to express my gratitude for certain people. Yes there are many friends who helped me but it is my family who believed in me and stood as a pillar along my side always.

  • Bajrangbali is always there for me and finally with his blessings I reached where I wanted to be. My father always motivated me to aspire the best, my brother NAVNEET always use to support me in all my endeavors ,my cousins are also very supportive.
  • My friends SACCHAN, SURENDRA, INDU, SWATI helped me a lot, they were always there during my difficult times and I used to rely upon them for all the info I can’t access due to shortage of time, thank you guys.
  • It was INDU who inspired me the most, motivated me and most important corrected me at every step.
  • Finally Dr P BABU and Dr UJJWAL SIR-it was not possible without your help and support. I will always be obliged for your help.

Interview

Q. How did you prepare for the interview?

I myself prepared profile based  questions and tried my best to get a satisfying answer. My friends helped me in this task, Later I joined few mock interviews at vajiram ,CL and SAMKALP
Q. Who was the chairman of you interview board?

Lt Gen REDDY

Q. How long was the interview?

37 mins 44 sec (from the time I removed my wrist watch to the time I got it back.) main interview must be somewhere 25-27 mins. I was tensed as I was the first guy for the interview

Q. Provide the list of questions asked (and if possible answers also)

Chairmain

  1. asked  about my school
  2. Than why I want to quit the most noble profession of a vet to come into busy and pressurized civil services
  3. Why veterinary universities got separated from agricultural universities? Was it right ?

First member

  1. Why you football ? why football is not so developed in INDIA ? why cricket is so much money?
  2. If given authority I’m sure you will give all the money to football ? When I said no-he asked than how you will proceed?
  3. Recent initiatives to develop football?

Second member

  1. Since you are from UP lets talks about your neighbor NEPAL.
  2. What’s going on there? What is INDIA’s stand on all this? Is it right if not what should be done?

Third member

  1. What are the issues INDIA facing in health sector ? At ground what is the most important problem doctors and veterinarians facing in the field ?
  2. Different routes of infection? then a long and jovial discussion on it. Where on one of my answer everybody laughed
  3. What is maternal mortality, infant mortality and our social and health indicators?

Fourth member

  1. Why is Firozabad(my district) famous ?
  2. Than law and order problem here and the child labour issue in glass industry.
  3. What is MSME? Even after govt is spending so much on it why we are not getting desired results?
  4. Difference btw CHINA MSME & INDIA MSME model,why china is doing better than us ?
  5. Why we are not much of value added meat products even after being a rich livestock country ?

third member (again)

  1. what is important sanitation or hygiene ? drainage channels will fall in to what category ?
  2. Important diseases transmitted by oral route?

Finally chairman asked .

Dr Raj I personally think doctors are not good administrators. When I said no sir I don’t agree with it, he asked me to prove him wrong by citing some example .than a discussion

Finally he asked if you are not selected what will you do.?

And at last .thank you RAJ good luck and good day

Q. Was your interview on the expected lines of what you had prepared or  Did they ask you totally unexpected questions?  If yes, how did you handle it?

I think it was mixed one. Certain things about MSME were little unexpected but I did my best to manage. I could have done a little better but board was so pleasant and helpful that I got my natural flow of speaking very fast which I realized might not be very helpful. Rest all was fine

Marksheet

PaperMarks
Essay087
General Studies Paper 1119
General Studies Paper 2143
Animal Husbandry and Vet.Sc Paper 197
Animal Husbandry and Vet.Sc Paper 2159
Zoology Paper 1146
Zoology Paper 2145
WRITTEN TOTAL896
Interview174
FINAL TOTAL1070

(#Mrunal’s non-serious comment: It seems UPSC has decided to give only two-digit marks to most candidates in their first optional’s first paper!

NameRankMarks in first optional’s first paperSubject
Anoop14095Agri.
Shefali33667Geog.
Chandrashekhar47049Pub.ad

although sample size still too small to draw conclusions  but it appears as if the Paper-I of all/most optionals was not only tough but also followed tough evaluation + ”step-motherly” treatment scaling. But then again, all ^these candidates have three digit scores in their second optional’s paper1. And that paper would be first optional for some other candidates, right? or perhaps this calls for a new conspiracy theory on how UPSC applies differential scaling to same optional depending on whether it is given candidate’s first or second optional hahaha! #end of non-serious comment)

Wisdom

Q. Through this struggle and success, what have you learned about life and competition? What is your message to future aspirants?

Ans. About life I have realized what my father used to say always: whatever happens happens for good and at the end GOD always reward the hard work-some way or another.

“My journey is my reward” I will only say that.

For future aspirants I would like to convey my best wishes and would say that it’s a long term motivation to excel in here, you need to read smart along with hard work and believe in yourself because when I can do it, others can do it and then for sure even you can do it.

Bogus marketing propaganda

You are well aware of the unwritten golden rule of conducting toppers’ interview: Final question has to be about the bogus marketing propaganda. So,

Q1. Were you a subscriber/ regular reader of Mrunal.org. And You can even say “no”, I’ll publish it without editing, unlike certain magazines hahaha.

Ans. Here I would really like to say a big thanks to you. I have been following mrunal from starting but got very regular after prelims and it really helped me a lot in mains.

Q2. How did Mrunal.org help you in your preparation?

Ans. The most beautiful thing about your posts is its simplicity. I used to read many things but retaining efficiency I used to get after reading articles here was jus amazing, your humourous and jovial writing is effective and very easy to understand.

Mrunal.org increased my knowledge which I used readymade in various questions.

Your economic survey analysis. I just love it.

Please keep up the good work. It had really helped me and it will help a lot others in future

My best wishes, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to share my experience with others.





So far 67 Comments posted

  1. braveheart

    i felicitate u on your success n happy that SAINIK school guys r thinking beyond defence …………u r inspiration for other sainik school guys ,after all only we know hw hardly we r trained for 7 years ……so cheers for BROTHERHOOD !!

  2. ankit

    you are right mrunal…Chakresh mishra..160 rank..pub ad-1 maks 37…where he got 180 and 185 in his last two attempts…UPSC is no doubt a lottery…

  3. me

    congrats man.happy for u :) and thank u mrunal.my first attempt hope I get thro.all the best for my fellow aspirant friends too

  4. Ivan Ivanovich

    “the bigger the profile the bigger the risk and the bigger the expectation of board .final out come a big fall if u are not able to justify yourself, you will turn out be a liar in front of board, so a medium profile is most advantageous.”
    agree with you Sir!

  5. satya dev arya

    very nice..and inspirational… thanks mrunal..really you are doing a great job…have a superb time ahead..

  6. Nirmal

    Sir, I have recently started following ur blog, on yhe recommendation of my senior. He says its an excellent blog.

  7. Mazhar

    Congrats Brother,
    Thank you for your Inspirational writing…

    ” when I can do it, others can do it and then for sure even you can do it.”

  8. shaanguy

    mrunal bhai..one small information for you..all your articles are exactly copied and published into a neatly crafted magazine in delhi market for 65rs..r u aware of this?? do they have your consent? or it is you who is doing that??

    1. Zodiac

      that happens with vajiram too, but mrunal is different coz its live and interactive, so even if its a liftoff it won’t have the same niche.

      1. shaanguy

        They have lifted articles mostly from ur S/T section..evry word is neatly taken except ur humour here and there.And the magazine doesnt bear any address of it neither it mentions its area of publication..but MRUNAL BHAI IT HAS GOOD DEMAND BELIVE ME!!..Why dont u explore this idea??

      2. saurav

        Mrunal bhai, I’ve already bought a printer cost Rs 6000/- exclusively to print your articles… will you come up with some book?. Though the book size will be very huge.. everybody will like it…

        1. Anand

          @Mrunal
          Very good idea. Why dont you try publishing all your works in printed book. It will be of very good use to many.

  9. risha

    I am confused about one question,anybody can answer…..specially Mrunal…..why people go for delhi as the exam centre even if they are from other states….is there any possible benefit attached to this decision?

    1. Mrunal

      Because they’d have joined Delhi’s coaching classes for preparation or got some job in Central ministries via SSC etc. or just staying in a rented room for peer-support/studies with their friends.

      1. risha

        thank you so much for the reply…..you are an asset to all the aspirants who are relying on self study….I was really in doubt but one thing I exactly cannot remember the successful candidate whose experience i came across over the internet….she mentioned she hadn’t taken coaching and did not stay in delhi but gave mains exam from delhi,thats when the question struck me….but if there are no reasons except the ones mentioned by you then I am releived,thanks a lot again :)

  10. laxank

    What does UPSC want?..all throughout i was a topper in English..got a very good percentile(96+) in CAT verbal section…and UPSC comes and says that i don’t know english..inspite of best of my paper i got only 71/300. That makes a complete mockery of me..how can i go about the problem with UPSC..plz suggest?

    1. subramani

      did they evaluate your other papers with 71 in english language?
      bcoz one of my fnd with 90 in language, got all his papers evaluated…..
      just wanted to know the cut off for language papers….

      1. laxank

        NO they didn’t and hence i am crying for justice.cut off was 89 or 90..one thing i want to ask you..whether they reported u friends marks as ‘090’ or ’90’..that makes a huge difference as mine was written as ‘071’ which i suspect as a mistake of replacing 1 with 0..as i might have got ‘171’ which i should get.

    2. Kavinder Negi

      96+ %ile in CAT is not ‘very good’.

      However, it is good enough to clear English compulsory paper.
      I think the difference might be that, CAT is objective while CSM is subjective.

      Anyways good luck this time.

      1. laxank

        True..96+ percehntile is not very good to enter IIMs..but surley a very good one when achieved without a bit of preparation.But this one was with a good preparation.One thing is more for sure, my command over language is better than those who cleared the paper while appearing in Hindi medium as a whole. The same way they have better command than me in hindi.( No ill wills please..just a fact to state my position)….UPSC has acknowledged that i might have got 171 and hence they the process is on in UPSC.

  11. Kavinder

    Congrats to Raj.
    Bit of motivation, with same topic for essay I had 115.
    Obvious his performance in all other papers far outstrips mine. :)

  12. shilpa

    Congratulations to Mr. Raj Kamal Yadav

    Also I thank Mrunal for all his guidance and articles that are really helpful for people like me who cant afford for coaching

    Thank you once again.

    I truly pray his work should not be exploited by anyone in the name of magazines etc…thats mere plagiarism….

  13. humble bee

    dear mrunal sir,

    you will stay on top of our hearts and you will stay on top of the world for your students are going to be the top administrators of this great country.
    as you grow more luminous and more valuable,more parasites sprout up to pirate your valuable material.those pirated materials are nothing but lifeless,loveless pieces of junk.they will only do one thing.more people will be fortunate to know you and will be attracted to your blog.you will grow in value never the parasites.i dont know whether you can curtail them from pirating u, i definitly know one thing.they can never curtail you from growing.
    you are not the light of us..but you are making us realise that there is light in us.thats what a real teacher does.you are the real teacher.we are with you.keep going sir..all the very best for the aspirants.let OUR JOURNEY BE OUR REWARD.make it worth travelling..
    light spreads…

  14. shaanguy

    laxank..i think your excess verbal ability baffled upsc team and they might have felt that you should be way above upsc standard.i pray you should get justice as soon as possible

    1. laxank

      I have no proclivity to be verbose and so no one can get baffled by my language. I write while maintaining some requisite standard which is a prime requirement for UPSC CSE. I have approached the commission they have accepted my point to be valid one which needs further clarification on commission’s side. Thank you wishing me.

      1. laxank

        I have no proclivity to be verbose and so no one can get baffled by my language. I write while maintaining some requisite standard which is a prime requirement for UPSC CSE. I have approached the commission they have accepted my point to be valid one which needs further clarification on commission’s side. Thank you for
        wishing me.

  15. rahul

    ITZ HARD CORE FACT THAT EFFORT BY MRUNAL REALY AMAZING…..THNX MILLIONS FOR UR VALUABLE EFFORT…AND MAKING SOME OF REAL HERO!!!!!!!THNX LOTTZ MRUNAL!!!!

  16. Naveen Kumar BT

    Its very bad to know someone is copying the the contents here.. Bhai, its against all the morality of self studying students. Though its “copy Left”, commercializing is an offence. please take action.

  17. nocturnal

    A big congrats to u Sir! Could u please elaborate on your GS strategy further?

    1. How did u prepare from Bipin Chandra – made short notes or underlined/ highlighted or something else? Personally find the book a bit daunting.
    2. Do u prefer to write GS answers in points or paragraph format?
    3. Can u plz illustrate how u wrote the intro and conclusion for any of the 25 markers in GS 1 paper? That would be immensely useful.
    3. Any special tips that u can suggest keeping in mind the new format?

    Thanks in advance :)

  18. rayal

    hi mrunal sir,
    im a veterinary graduate..preparing for for civils,,i would like to know email id of Raj Kamal Yadav (AIR-21/CSE-2012)…as he is a veterinarian….please provide me sir..

  19. laasya

    hello sir
    first of all congratulations.
    sir even my optional is zoology,can u pls share ur notes in this blog.this would be very helpful to those who are taking same subject and have no guidance since it is a rare optional. and sir can u sell ur zoology reference books to me because i stay in remote place.
    thanking u

  20. riddhi

    hello sir,

    is it too late to start preparing for 2014, if one is doing it with a part time job? I have some idea about my optional? but is 11 mnths enough to make a mark?plzz respond

  21. Parag

    Sir at 1st i would like to salute u for such a great job… actually i’ve opened ur site for first time n then bunked college for two days exploring ur site day n night got all i’m searching for since month…
    sir, i’m currently in mbbs 2nd yr and much interested in civil services than medicine field, now i’have decided to prepare few hrs daily for upsc n just pass over the mbbs… would it be right decision if i ultimately wanted to go for upsc i’m confused bcoz the board had high expectations from such graduates?? n which will be best optional for quick completion besides medicine n irrespective of interest worth considerable?

  22. vikram jain

    Best site I have ever seen…really doing very great job mrunal sir. If everything will be right and I get succeed, I m hoping one day I will also share my story….thnks alot

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