- Topper Profile
- Education
- Electronic Vs Paper material
- Tempo and style
- Struggle of a Senior player
- Prelims (CSAT) General studies
- Prelims (CSAT) Aptitude
- Prelim accuracy
- Mains: Compulsory language paper
- Mains: Essay
- General Studies (Mains) paper 1
- General studies (Mains) paper 2
- General studies (Mains) Paper 3
- General Studies 4: Ethics, Integrity, aptitude
- GS4 Ethics case study answers in Mains 2013
- Mains answer-writing?
- Mains Optional Subject
- Before the interview
- During the interview
- CSE-2013 Marksheet
- Career Backup
- Views on UPSC reforms
- Insecurity about profile
- Wisdom
- Credit: Friends/family
- BOGUS Marketing Propaganda
Topper Profile
| Name | Gaurav Agrawal |
| Rank in CSE-2013 | 1 |
| Roll No. | 249085 |
| Age | 29 |
| Total attempts in CSE | 2 |
| Optional Subject | Economics |
| Medium chosen for Mains answers | English |
| Schooling medium | English |
| College medium | English |
| Home town/city | Jaipur |
| Work-experience if any | 3.5 years in Investment Banking. Presently in IPS. |
| Details of other competitive exams, including success/failures |
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| Details of coaching, mock tests, postal material for any competitive exam (if used) |
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| service preference #1, 2 and 3 | IAS > IPS > IRS |
| state cadre preference (top3) | Rajasthan > MP > Gujarat |
Education
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| % in class 10 | 88.2 |
| % in class 12 | 85.6 |
| Schooling (Medium) | English |
| Graduation course and % | Computer Sc. & Engg. 6.8/10. Multiple F’s and degree Extended. |
| Name of college, city, passing out year | IIT Kanpur, 2005 |
| Post-graduation | IIM Lucknow, MBA in Finance 9.25 / 10. Gold Medal |
| Any other professional courses | |
| Hobbies & Extra curricular |
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Electronic Vs Paper material
Q. In recent times, there is spur in electronic material- blogs, sites, pdfs, RSS-feeds. Many aspirants feel bogged down by this information overload. So, how much do you rely on electronic material and how much on the paper material (Books, newspapers)?
More than 60% of preparation today has to come from internet. Role of books is decreasing. Hindu is of prime importance now. No typical day. I maintain notes.
Tempo and style
Q. People know what books and syllabus points are to be prepared. But most of them lack consistency in their preparation. So, how do you keep study momentum going on? How do you fight against the mood swings and distractions?
Inner strengths.
Struggle of a Senior player
Q1. What’re your words of wisdom to other senior players? If any specific inspirational incident(s), please share.
Only one thing. While preparing for the next attempt, don’t begin in blind and just repeat what you did earlier, because that obviously failed. Instead, sit down, analyze, find your weaknesses and work to improve those weaknesses mainly.
Q2. What went wrong in your previous attempt? What changes did you make in this current attempt?
I’ve written a detailed article about it. click me
Prelims (CSAT) General studies
| Topic | strategy/booklist/comment |
| History Ancient | I had history optional last year. |
| History Medieval | I had history optional last year. |
| History Modern (Freedom Struggle) | Shekhar Bandopadhyay and Bipin Chandra books |
| Culture society | I had history optional last year. |
| Polity (theory + current) | DD Basu |
| Economy (theory + current) | I had economics optional. |
| Science (theory + current) | 9th and 10th class NCERT and Vajiram notes. |
| Environment (theory + current) | Please read my blog post for this. click me |
| geography physical | 11th and 12th class NCERT, Goh Che Leong, Vajiram notes. |
| geography India | 11th and 12th class NCERT, Goh Che Leong, Vajiram notes. |
| geography world | 11th and 12th class NCERT, Goh Che Leong, Vajiram notes. |
| other national/international current affairs | Newspaper and internet. |
| Schemes, Policy & Filler Stuff | Newspaper and internet. |
Prelims (CSAT) Aptitude
| Topic | strategy / booklist |
|---|---|
| Maths | Didn’t prepare. |
| reasoning | Didn’t prepare. |
| comprehension | Didn’t prepare. |
| Decision Making | Didn’t prepare. |
Q. Any observation / comments / tips about GS Aptitude 2013 paper.
Can’t comment here as didn’t prepare for this.
Prelim accuracy
Q1. Did you attend any ‘mock tests’? do you think they’re necessary for success?
Yes. Yes absolutely necessary.
Q2. Approximate no. of attempted answers vs. correct answers. in CSAT-2013
Don’t remember as didn’t analyze this year’s paper after coming back.
Q3. Your score in prelim?
| General studies | 121.34 |
| aptitude | 182.50 |
| total | 304 |
Mains: Compulsory language paper
| Compulsory language paper | Your preparation strategy / booklist? |
| English paper | None |
| your regional language | None |
Q2.other observations / tips / comments on the length / difficulty level of compulsory language papers in CSE-2013
None
Mains: Essay
Q1. How did you prepare for the essay paper?
Analyzed my mistakes from previous year and improved upon them. Details can be found here. click me
Q2. Which among the following essay did you write? What key points did you include in it?
- Be the change you want to see in others (Gandhi)
- Is the Colonial mentality hindering India’s Success?
- GDP (Gross Domestic Product) along with GDH (Gross Domestic Happiness) would be the right indices for judging the wellbeing of a country
- Science and technology is the panacea for the growth and security of the nation.
Attempted the Essay on S&T. Key points can be found here. click me
General Studies (Mains) paper 1
Please note that while reading the coaching material, we will find that 90% of the topics are repetitive and useless if we have read the books. So skip those 90% and quickly read the remaining useful 10% only.
| Topic | How did you prepare? |
| culture | Multiple sources, mentioned here click me |
| Indian history | Shekhar Bandopadhyay – From Plassey to Partition, Bipin Chandra (both freedom struggle and since independence) |
| world history | Baliyan’s history optional classnotes. Also read Europe Since Napoleon for history optional last year. |
| post-independence India | Mentioned above. Most of the questions asked were common knowledge which we develop from school time via newspapers and stories. |
| Indian society | Everybody knows everything. Skipped. |
| role of women, poverty etc. | Everybody knows everything. Skipped. |
| globalization on Indian society | Everybody knows everything. Skipped. |
| communalism, regionalism, secularism | Everybody knows everything. Skipped. |
| world geo physical | Had some basic idea. Got some coaching notes of Baliyan and Vajiram. Read some topics from Savinder Singh’s book. Prepared cyclones from IMD website. |
| resource distribution | Skipped. |
| factors for industrial location | Skipped. Most of it is common sense. |
| earthquake tsunami etc | NCERT, Savinder Singh. |
| impact on flora-fauna | Skipped. |
General studies (Mains) paper 2
| Topic | How Did You Prepare? |
| Indian Constitution, devolution, dispute redressal etc. | DD Basu |
| comparing Constitution with world | Basic comparison everybody knows. So skipped. |
| parliament, state Legislatures | DD Basu, Puncchi Commission and 2nd ARC reports. |
| executive-judiciary | DD Basu and also current issues. |
| ministries departments | Skipped |
| pressure group, informal asso. | 2nd ARC report. But too general a topic, everybody knows everything. |
| Representation of people’s act | Current issues (SC rulings had come on this issue) |
| various bodies: Constitutional, statutory.. | Internet based study, Wikipedia, expert opinion. Basically find the composition etc. of the body. Powers, functions etc. mostly same. Weaknesses and strengths also mostly same. Refer to my notes here. |
| NGO, SHG etc | Everybody knows everything. Still studied 2nd ARC report for core issues. |
| welfare schemes, bodies | Vajiram came out with a public pdf analyzing various schemes. |
| social sector, health, edu, HRD | Follow current issues |
| governance, transparency, accountability | 2nd ARC report |
| e-governance | 2nd ARC report |
| role of civil service | 2nd ARC report |
| India & neighbors | Newspapers and internet |
| bilateral/global grouping | Newspapers and internet |
| effect of foreign country policies on Indian interest | Newspapers and internet |
| diaspora | Newspapers and internet |
| international bodies- structure mandate | Newspapers and internet |
General studies (Mains) Paper 3
| Topic | How Did You Prepare? |
| Indian economy, resource mobilization | Everything under the sun comes under it. What to prepare. |
| inclusive growth | Everybody knows everything. |
| budgeting | I read 2nd ARC report on Financial Management. But obviously question asked was from somewhere else and I had no idea. But still one should read it to cover basic stock issues in the topic like accrual budgeting, other types of budget etc. Additionally I think one should read the budget carefully and watch out for any interesting term in it. |
| major crops, irrigation | Report titled “State of Indian Agriculture” presented in parliament in March / April 2012. |
| agro produce – storage, marketing | APMC Acts, direct marketing, e-marketing initiatives, FDI in retail, schemes of the ministry, Mega food park scheme, National Food Processing Missin etc. All this can be found on internet. |
| e-technology for famers | Internet. |
| farm subsidies, MSP | From economics optional background. Understand what are the issues with farm subsidies and MSPs. See what leading economists are saying about these. Read a few papers from CACP website. |
| PDS, buffer, food security | CACP website, FSB, internet based study totally. |
| technology mission | Internet. |
| animal rearing economics | Couldn’t prepare except for whatever is given in State of Indian Agriculture Report, 2012. |
| food processing | Mentioned above in storage, marketing topic. |
| land reforms | Prepared it as a part of economics optional. You can see my notes. Bhoodan and Gramdan I saw from Mrunal. |
| liberalization | Internet, newspapers |
| Infra | Internet, newspapers |
| investment models | Internet, newspapers |
| science-tech day to day life | Coaching material, but all of it was useless. |
| Indian achievements in sci-tech | Skipped |
| awareness in IT, space, biotech, nano, IPR | Tried to follow current developments. For all effective purposes, skipped. |
| environmental impact assessment | Skipped. Everybody knows everything. |
| Disaster Management | 2nd ARC report. CAG report on the topic. |
| non state actors, internal security | 2nd ARC and Puncchi Commission reports covering tribal councils, 5th and 6th schedule issues, PESA, FRA etc. |
| internal security – role of media, social networking site | Too general, everybody knows everything. Just keep following current issues. |
| cyber security | Skipped. Everybody knows everything. |
| money laundering | Skipped. Everybody knows everything. |
| border Management | Skipped. Everybody knows everything. |
| organized crime, terrorism | Skipped mostly. Read some discussion on anti-terror law in 2nd ARC report. Everybody knows everything. |
| security agencies- structure mandate | Some Wikipedia based study, but mostly skipped. Everybody knows everything. |
General Studies 4: Ethics, Integrity, aptitude
| Topic | How Did You Prepare? |
| ethics and interface, family, society and all the hathodaa topics | Too general topics. Everybody knows everything about these topics. Most important question in this topic is what is the role of family / society in framing morality / ethics. |
| attitude, moral influence etc. | Sriram, Baliyan and Vajiram material available in photocopy shops for basic definitions. |
| civil service: integrity, impartiality, tolerance to weak etc | Vajiram and Baliyan material available in photocopy shops. Nolan committee report. 2nd ARC report. |
| emotional intelligence, its use in governance | Sriram material for basic definitions. Too general topic, everybody knows everything about it. One important question is role of EI in administration. |
| moral thinkers of India and world | How many thinkers did you prepare? Mostly skipped it. Tried to remember a few thinkers from Baliyan’s and Sriram’s notes but found it couldn’t be done. |
| ethics in pub.ad, accountability, laws, rules etc. | 2nd ARC report. Everybody knows everything. |
| corporate governance | Important topics I thought here were recent Company law, Sebi recommendations. But they didn’t ask these. Otherwise this is too general a topic and everybody knows everything. |
| probity in governance, work culture | Everybody knows everything. |
| citizen charter, ethics code, work culture etc. | 2nd ARC reports on ethics and governance. |
| challenges of corruption | 2nd ARC report on ethics. |
| case studies on above topics | Bring it on approach. |
Any other comments, word of wisdom after going through the mains-2013.
In case studies, I always tried to analyze each option from a theoretical perspective. I used to take an option and see what the 4-5 school of ethics say about it and then try to come to an acceptable ethical decision.
GS4 Ethics case study answers in Mains 2013
Q. in GS4 ethics papers, please give a sketchy overview of your case study answers:
Sorry don’t remember. But my vision ias mock tests where I attempted such case studies can be seen here… click me
| Case | your approach/ keypoints |
| 1: RTI: To hide or not to hide | |
| 2: Engineer: Bogus flyover vs deadline | |
| 3: Child Labourers in Sivakasi | |
| 4: Nepotism in Job recruitment | |
| 5: Leaking information | |
| 6: Narrate one incident in your life when you were faced with such crisis of conscience and how you resolved the same. |
Mains answer-writing?
Q. How was your experience with the ‘fixed space’ answer sheet?
It’s a trap. Don’t fall to the temptation of filling the entire space.
Q. Did you write answers in bullet points or in paragraphs? Some players (who cleared mains and got interview call letter) were claiming that they wrote entire paper in bullet points, so it doesn’t matter….whether examiner is asking ‘examine, comment, discuss or xyz’….simply write in bullets and points.
Bullet points with proper headings, sub headings, underlining. And who says we can’t comment / discuss in points or while analyzing can’t present our thoughts in points. In comment / discuss / analyze kind of questions, simply give all positive points, then given all negative points and then give way forward. Or say take up an issue as a point sub heading, do its pros and cons analysis and then move on to next point sub heading. Bottom line is, use your own brain and communicate in a way you feel to be the best. Don’t rely blindly on coachingwallahs.
Q. Did you follow the “introduction-body-conclusion” format? because some mains-qualified candidates claim they simply wrote the points they could recall within the time, instead of bothering with proper introduction and conclusion.
Yes. I too wrote almost all my answers in points but still I gave a proper introduction, proper headings and sub-headings and then a conclusion. The main bulk of the answer was in points. I don’t think why the tradeoff mentioned in the second half of your question should arise.
Q. In GS papers, Since UPSC came with those 100 and 200 words questions. What was your approach in the exam (I wrote all, I only focused on the questions where I could answer perfectly, I just not to high quality points to reach the word limit etc.)
Extremes in public life are mostly bad and one has to do a balancing act. Same applies to your question above. I would only say, have faith in your judgment, apply your mind, and rely on intuition on what to attempt and what not. Exam condition is so dynamic, can’t apply any rigid formula there. I simply attempted questions I ‘felt’ I should attempt.
Q. How many marks worth questions did you skip/couldn’t finish in the GS papers?
| GS (Mains paper) | Couldn’t finish /attempt |
|---|---|
| GS1 | 10 marks |
| GS2 | 10 marks |
| GS3 | 60 marks |
| GS4 | 10 marks |
Q5. Did you use highlighters / sketchpens in your answers?
No
Q6. Did you draw any diagram in any paper? (e.g. in GS1 Geography)
No, wanted to but couldn’t
Q7. If yes, Did you draw diagrams with pencil or pen?
NA
Q8. Did you use ruler to draw the lines in diagram? Or did you just make it by hand?
NA
Q9. You wrote the answer in blue pen or black pen?
Blue gel pen
(Mrunal – since readers keep mailing such queries, therefore I’m asking the topper to clear all the air haha.)
Mains Optional Subject
Q1. First the essential book/resource list. (Also mention which one is the “Base book” for covering the theory? + Whatever comments you’ve for a particular book e.g. “my seniors said read xyz book but I found that ABC book was better”. “xyz topic not given properly in this book, so prepare from xyz website or book…” OR and so on.)
Economics was my optional. Please read my blog post on this where I have covered this in great detail. click me
This is a list of reading material arrived after a lot of painstaking trial and errors.
There are many topics which required study of many research papers and internet articles. So obviously can’t mention a single source for them. But I used to take whatever I found useful from there and make my own notes which can be found here. click me
Q2. How much of internet-research / current affairs is necessary for this optional? OR can one simply rely on the books and be done with this subject?
Paper 1 can be done mostly by books. Paper 2 is 80% internet based.
Q3. How many months did it take to finish the core optional syllabus?
3 months for the first time where I could study the other optional as well as GS along with Economics.
Q4. How many days/ weeks before the exam, you started answer writing practice?
Around 2 months.
Q5. Do you maintain self-notes for revision of optional? In which format- electronic or paper?
Yes, electronic. All uploaded on my blog.
Q6. Your observation about the difficultly level of 2013 mains vs previous papers. And what precautions / rectifications are necessary in the future strategy for given optional subject?
I think there was a quantum jump in the difficulty level from previous mains. There was a question in paper 1. I still can’t even understand to this day. But thankfully, the system of choices saved me. Precautions etc. I have mentioned in my blog post on economics.
Q7.How much did you skip OR couldn’t answer properly, in the optional paper?
| optional paper | Couldn’t finish __ mark |
|---|---|
| Paper I | Around 14 marks |
| paper II | Around 8 marks |
Before the interview
Q1. How did you prepare for the interview? Particularly college graduation subjects related questions?
First, would like to clarify the myth that UPSC interview is only of 275 marks i.e. 10-15%. The real weight of the interview is at least 40%. The reasons are: a) UPSC has developed a habit of giving very less marks in mains. This is a relative exam and only difference of marks between us and others matters. Naturally if low marks are given in written, then difference of marks from others which we can have by performing well in written will be less. b) Only candidates clearing mains can give interview. So whatever little difference in marks was there in mains gets reduced even further (as the difference in marks among the mains successful candidates would be less than the difference in the entire set). On the other hand, interview marks come only after this mains cutoff stage and there is a full range of marks given in interviews. So the difference in marks arising out of interview can be great leading to its increased effective weight.
So neglect interview only at your own peril! And also unlike what many say interview is not purely ‘luck’ based. Barring few exceptional cases, most of the interviews contain questions 90% of which can be predicted and prepared well in advance! Wait for my blog post on interviews.
– Subject: College graduation subject (Computer Sc.) didn’t have much relevance for me as I had done a lot of things after college. So I had done only very basic preparation of IT – current happenings and some theoretical aspects. My main field was economics which was running through my entire DAF (in hobby, job related to eco, optional eco, MBA done in finance – most people relate finance with economics). And economics is a subject where unless we meet an economist in the panel, the interview would be on current economic issues only. So decided to skip the theoretical portions and prepare only the current macroeconomic issues. We were facing high inflation and low growth, stalled projects, land acquisition issues etc. And a new government was there. So it was natural to expect questions on it and so I prepared these issues. Since economics was my main area, so I had to speak like an economist. Nothing less was expected. So remembered some key data related to IIP, WPI, CPI, GDP numbers etc. Developed mind maps containing 6-7 points on Why high inflation and Why low growth. The thing is in such issues everybody knows everything, but I had to speak like an economist. So from the first sentence itself, my understanding should be visible. This is possible only when we prepare these questions beforehand and not think about them for the first time in the interview itself. I have these mind maps on paper, so will upload scanned images on my blog post so that readers can get a clearer idea of what I am talking about.
– Home state: Had prepared it last year as well, so this year mostly revised it and prepared some current issues (like refinery, jaipur metro, drug trafficking, socio economic scenario). Mostly internet based study particularly Wikipedia. For Rajput and modern history, read a book used in RAS history optional apart from internet.
– Home district: I was brought up in Jaipur so prepared a few aspects of Jaipur (tourism places, economic activities, present problems etc.). But I was born in Bharatpur. In the summary sheet, only place of birth comes, so preparing place of birth is more important than preparing ‘home’ district. I prepared Bharatpur history, economy, tourism places, Keoladeo park, Salim Ali, ornithology etc. Mostly Wikipedia based study.
– Job: I was trading financial derivatives at Citi. Most important thing for me was naturally financial crisis. I know a great deal about financial crisis naturally having seen it from the middle of it all, but when it comes to explaining it in 2-3 sentences, prior preparation is needed. So I prepared it and it was asked in the beginning questions itself last year. Then I also prepared history of Citi and its mergers, Salomon Brothers, John Meriwether, LTCM etc. Some preparation related to Vikram Pandit and Corbatt.
– IPS: Had to study a lot about this topic this year as it was completely new. Prepared police reforms (studied all commissions setup since British era, watched Aamir Khan’s show, read many articles on internet) then prepared mind maps of 5-6 points to speak on various possible questions on police and bureaucracy reforms. Basically in such topics everybody knows everything. What matters is how we speak in first 2-3 sentences. However, they couldn’t find out I was already into IPS (as it was there in the DAF but not summary sheet from where they were asking), so no questions asked. Will upload the scanned copies of these mind maps in my blogpost.
– Why IAS after IPS, IIM, IIT, Investment Banking: Spent a lot of time preparing this. Prepared it from all possible angles I could think. Came up with realistic answers. In both interviews, this was the first question asked.
– Other DAF things: Prepared everything mentioned in the DAF. Will cover these in the blog post where I will upload my DAF and cover each issue.
– Current affairs: Current affairs preparation for interview is different from preparation for mains. Basically people who are taking our interview are not preparing themselves. So they will only remember ‘masala’ news and not the boring committees and legislations etc. So have to cover masala news for interview and develop our own opinion on all such news items.
Q2. Did you attend any mock interviews by coaching classes? How were they similar / different than official interview? Do you believe it is necessary to attend such mock interviews?
Yes. They were very helpful for me as I was cutout for private sector interviews, not UPSC interview. UPSC interview requires different kind of mannerisms and body language and this is what I learnt from mocks. Then I also got to know my weakness areas on which I worked. However, don’t rely blindly on whatever they say, apply your own mind before changing / preparing something.
Q3. What did you wear? Some experts say coat is must, some say tie is must, and some say black shoes must. What attire did you pick up?
The sole purpose of the attire should be that it doesn’t get noticed. I wore a shirt, trousers and a tie. Black shoes, clean shaved.
Q4. Where did you stay for the interview? (Hotel / friend’s home …) and what books/material did you bring for the ‘revision before interview’?
My friend’s place. Revised some of my online notes and mind maps.
During the interview
Q1. Who was the chairman of you interview board?
Dr. Kilemsungla
Q2. How long was the interview?
May be around 20-25 mins
Q3. Please narrate your entire interview- what questions did they ask and what did you reply and other pleasant or uncomfortable experiences during the interview. (Earlier some toppers only tell me their question but not their answer. I would appreciate if you give both Question + your original answers)
click me for Full transcript of my interview by UPSC panel.
Q5. Was your interview on the expected lines of what you had prepared or did they ask you totally unexpected questions? Was it a stress interview, did they ask any uncomfortable questions? If yes, how did you handle it?
Most of it was expected.
Q6. Any side details about technicalities like “make sure you bring xyz document or do xyz thing, or you’ll face problem”?
None
Q7. Any word of wisdom / observations about medical checkup?
None
CSE-2013 Marksheet
| SUBJECTS | MARKS |
|---|---|
| ESSAY (PAPER-I) | 135 |
| GENRAL STUDIES -I (PAPER-II) | 85 |
| GENRAL STUDIES -II (PAPER-III) | 63 |
| GENRAL STUDIES -III (PAPER-IV) | 88 |
| GENRAL STUDIES -IV (PAPER-V) | 102 |
| OPTIONAL-I (Economics) (PAPER-VI) | 134 |
| OPTIONAL-II (Economics) (PAPER-VII) | 162 |
| WRITTEN TOTAL | 769 |
| PERSONALITY TEST | 206 |
| FINAL TOTAL | 975 |
Q2. After looking at the marksheet, suppose you had to prepare again next time, what changes will you make in your studies?
Would sit down and try to figure out how to score more in GS. Would consult few more people, also join test series to seek feedback.
Career Backup
Q1. If you were not selected, what was your career backup plan?
Continued with IPS, Rajasthan cadre.
Q2. when were you going to “execute” that backup plan? (e.g. after __ failed attempts/ after I cross __ age/after dad retires/ etc.)
After the result.
Views on UPSC reforms
What are your views on following issues?
Q. Despite what UPSC has done in recent years, it has failed to curb the nuisance of Delhi’s coaching factories. In fact it’s increased under the new syllabus in 2013. Let’s face it, most toppers have relied on (authentic OR Xeroxed) coaching notes because there was hardly any time left to prepare so many topics in such short time. This system work against an individual preparing from far-away area, without any financial resources, high-speed internet or contacts in Delhi.
Don’t agree with this. Coachingwallahs thrive when question papers are static and same things are repeated year after year. UPSC, on the other hand, has made their paper very dynamic in last 2-3 years. Now the ‘bookish’ questions have reduced greatly and analyze types have increased. No longer are they asking questions where information is the key determinant (even in the prelims). What matters is one’s opinion and analysis. This cannot be found in any single place / book and internet has to be referred to. Most coachingwallahs are stagnant and old and are unwilling to change with times. Classroom coachings have become a waste of time. Only 10% of what they teach is perhaps relevant. Instead of attending their classes and wasting time on that 90% useless thing, better to just buy their notes from photocopy shops and study the 10%. Coachings take 6 months to teach what one can study in 2 months and are of inferior quality.
Mrunal comments: thanks, your reply will help clear the negative vibes among some new players that Delhi coaching is essential for success in UPSC.
Q. Optional subjects should be removed altogether. The present stalemate is helping no-one, except coaching-owners, book publishers.
I don’t subscribe to the so called ‘level playing field’ theory that removing optional ensures level playing field. How can it be a level playing field when you force an engineer to study history as well as a history student to study history? Is this level playing field or the scenario when everybody can study his/her strength?
Q. UPSC should disclose official prelim answerkey and cutoffs, immediately after prelim is over, instead of postponing it till interview phase is over.
Yes. In fact should also reveal individual’s marks along with his / her prelims result.
Q. UPSC should be conducted online like IBPS and CAT exam to shorten the duration of exam.
Invariably that is the direction one has to move in. But people are not ready for it presently.
Q. If you are made the UPSC chairman, what other reforms would you initiate for the civil service exam?
Transparency Related Matters
- Provide scanned copies of answer sheets.
- Release all marks of each candidate at each stage.
- Give a tentative window of result declaration beforehand.
Quality of Exam
Divide GS into more papers and ensure that only a historian is checking history answers, geographer is checking geography answers, foreign policy experts are checking IR answers and so on. In the present system, a single person is checking entire GS paper which has 3-4 subjects and this hampers quality of examination seriously.
Insecurity about profile
Q. Many candidates prepare sincerely but constantly live under fear about ‘profile insecurity’. I’m not from a big college, I’m not from English medium, and I don’t have work-experience. What if they ask some stressful questions in the interview about this? Did you suffer from such insecurities? What is your message to these candidates?
No such insecurities. On the other hand, I suffered from the insecurity that given my exceptional background, the interview board may take me as arrogant and confused even before the interview begins.
Wisdom
Q. Through this struggle and success, what have your learned? What is the wisdom of life and competition? What is Your message to the new aspirants?
Learnt that there are always conflicting perspectives of things and one has to appreciate both. Also life is not like sciences, but social sciences. 2 + 2 may not be equal to 4. One has to accept what it is and move on.
Q. Many hardworking candidates have failed in Mains/Interview of CSE-2013. They’re feeling dejected- what is your message to them?
Of course tighten your seat belts and get going. But don’t just blindly repeat what you did because obviously it didn’t work. See where your mistakes might have been and improve them.
Credit: Friends/family
Q. Behind every topper are many people who stood by during those uncertain times when he/she was merely an ‘aspirant’. Would you like to tell the world, who were those people in your case? Any specific incidence that you would like to share with the readers?
I dedicate this success to my family.
BOGUS Marketing Propaganda
Q. You are well aware of the sacred rule – the last question must be about self-marketing. So, Did you use Mrunal.org for your preparation and if yes, how did it help you? And you can even reply “No”. I’ll still publish your answer without tempering, unlike those competitive magazines.
Yes, in fact question on Bhoodan movement I had read from your article only. But not a regular follower as its not a user friendly site. Please make it structured and easy to read. I have tried to read it many times but always find it difficult to see.
Mrunal comments: In 2014, I shifted to a new theme. But Yes, there are still lot of issue with the site, but as they say in Public Administration- routine activities taking away the time necessary to bring out long term reforms! Anyways, great interacting with you, especially the Delhi coaching factories part. Wish you the best for the long career ahead, keep in touch.
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if csat is scrapped this year it will be historic, i will get to see many smart study campaigners licking dust who used to advice me how not to indulge in devilous detailed study and be sly in selective reading, such short cut ppl had thronged even the most prestigious examination of our country, now with cast scrapped such strong contenders will fall like the million robot clones of rajnikants robot movie after he infects them with a virus, how will they read all the big stuff in a month or even for next year i guess, thats why my guruji says always b prepared 100% dont rely on luck and smartness, that is just one day make up, u cant dupe your husband with make up all the tym, hilarious,,, but if it doesn’t get scrapped i will feel pity to line up mr modi in the group of jp kejriwal who are born whenever congress is in sleepiness and over self esteem just to put congress again on toes and make it to work selflessly again to win hearts of common man and not to rise up to the giant and make continuous history as is of congress..
btw coachings are really useless, they are only hub for making girlfriend or boyfriends, teachers are always cracking jokes giving pravchans of all kinds, that reduces substantial class lectures to an effective time of hardly 10 20 minutes per hour
hahaha! chalo thodi shanti mili ki ab dukh nhi hoga coaching n lene ka,bina coaching k its posibl 2 stdy.
u not always studying, right, there is no harm in getting a cool change and some admirers for your beauty n intelligence in a coaching, btw i joined as my father wont give any money to sustain or asked to get married, i was not fortunate as mr gaurav to stop attending after paying fees my attendance was checked, so i just made a good way out, i used to study my books most of the time in class esplly when they were giving pravchans, trust me i do that really well
what i meant to say is coachings are good for everythinh except gruelling studies
thnx kiki.i ws confused whether 2 join coaching or not.strtd my prep vry late nd now suffering.bt it takes lots of fain digging internet all the time 2 get a background of all events, govt policies related 2 tht nd existing laws.smtimes my whole day just spent searching all this.
It’s not at all,,
N importance of coaching not important but it is important according to ur subject n requirements..
Take Philosophy, n join PATANJALI…
will know the importance of coaching…
See some erroneous comments here. Studying Engg or medicine does not give any advantage.
Please look up definition of Aptitude – which simply mean ability to do some thing or things.
What CSAT paper checks is basic comprehension and arithmetic skill upto 10 class- don’t tell me you did not study that in 10th or were you exempt.
Further more ref the mains paper the paper was tough this year and UPSC deliberately gave low marks in essay – GS so that they could select the right candidate at time of interview. The result was that you were not suitable you got 80-90 marks whereas if they thing you are civil services material the you got 180 + and that made all the difference !!!!
People who succeed once get selected time and again where as those who do not get ejected time after time.
Mr Agarwal who was already in IPS was 1st rank this year- does it mean that he got better or just that he is able capable and has the aptitude.
IN UPSC WE TRUST TODAY TOMORROW AND ALWAYS
ash bhai sahab, if the aptitude is a great thing then why the ppl with gr8 aptitudes are not fetching marks in general studies, they are taking short cuts that if they have gr8 aptitudes they can do anything anytime but not work this time, no one could have dared to oppose against the csat proforma , u cant treat a patient with just a gr8 aptitude u have to learn the big medical literature to treat one, gr8 aptitude only helps u to master all that in lesser time n effort, similarly u need to know all about the syllabus to become a good administrator, i repeat that if the people would have scored equally well in general studies as in csat no one would have dared to make a hue and cry against upsc,
u cant blame the paper was tough so ppl fetched low in paper 1, a gr8 aptitude can score in it well if it wants to work hard, i m not sumone who scored less in csat, i dont have a problem with csat if its only my case, but the general trend of selection is favoring smart n less learned ppl, they have a place in management not administration
u cant blame the paper was tough so ppl fetched low in paper 1, a gr8 aptitude can score in it well if it wants to work hard, i m not sumone who scored less in csat, i dont have a problem with csat if its only my case, but the general trend of selection is favoring smart n less learned ppl, they have a place in management not administration
oaky……. so riddle me this —– in 2010 there was no CSAT – everything hunky dory,,, no discrimination……………..no change in syllabus to suit engineers and giving them unfair advantage………. everything was in its place ….. then why was it that of all the candidates finally recommended, 41% were “stupid” engineers (as per UPSC annual report), even when all talented and truly deserving souls from geopgrpahy, history, sociology, public administration, literature, agriculture, medicine , commerce, and so on appeared and wrote the exam……………….why was it so if CSAT is the only enabler assisting the engineers to get through nowadays and discriminating against truly “deserving” candidates
u must bring in complete data like how many engineers give this exam and how many out of it clear it, i think tgere are more engineers than anyone else on this soil, moreover they are the one who seriously change their career stream more than others, that is why they are talking about recession while employers complain there is not enough skill in the working population, they never study their core branches ,just taking a graduation degree from a prime iit to make resume look good n appear for some other short cuts , if they dont study engineering definitely they will throng the other competitive examination n so their winning numbvers will surely go up
Here it is Ms./Mr. Kiki – in 2010 CSE – 5631 appeared from humanities and 342 of them were finally recommended – success rate 6% ……………………….. and out of 3309 engineering student appeared from engineering with a success rate of 11%
this is the CSE mains data……………………..
sorry ………. I didn’t mention above the number of finally recommended engineering students – 342
sorry ………. I didn’t mention above the number of finally recommended engineering students – 360
PS. – I don’t mean any disrespect to any humanities, literature medicine or engineering guys…………………. I was just making my point……………….. If it offends you ……….. accept my sincerest apologies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and good luck for CSE 2014
Rahul Bro, stop reacting here, just prepare for the EXAM. Solved CL test 1 Got 148 in GS and 196.4 In CSAT.. so if they remove CSAT.. still i dont Care
I can’t help it if you don’t get satire and sarcasm. Had you prodded just a little further you would have gotten the point I was trying to make…………..I’m strongly Pro CSAT buddy…………………….. cheers:) :)
And on a different note. I am used to solving Fourier and Laplace transforms and complex differential equations on a regular basis ………… So I am not even going to dignify the CSAT level math by calling it a child’s play……………………… it’s way below child’s play for me………………….
I am in engineering services.. AIR 7, now giving with electrical optional this year
very nice ……………… and good luck for CSE 2014…………….. and I admire you for choosing electrical engg as an option and not humanities………………. many even from IITs shy away to humanities options because they think.. engg. syllabi are too lengthy in CSE……………………
and since it seems we are on the same team ….. let’s not indulge in friendly fire………………….. :) btw… I’m appearing with physics as optional because sadly ECE doesn’t figure in the optional’s list of the CSE………………….
Sir my optional is economics and me preparing for 2015 …as I read advanced microeconomics hl ahuja…eventhough the syllabus portion from this book is less..but when I read other portion outside course it look relevant to me ..so what should be my strategy ..is it strictly according to syllabus..
aptitude is no substitute for knowledge, it is no doubt supplementary to it, but ppl are taking it as a short cut which is bringing it a bad name,
honey … even without CSAT in 2010 of all the candidates finally recommended, 41% were engineers(as per UPSC annual report) what short cut they took then ……. ……………
honey … even without CSAT in 2010 of all the candidates finally recommended, 41% were engineers(as per UPSC annual report) what short cut they took then ????? ……. ……………
Mains kya aapke papa clear kr rhe hai?
sir!
gudeveng !!!!! as i completed my coaching in new coaching institute .so dont know the civils pattern and syllabus …………….simply i know only the civils exam ……………so i wasted a lot of time ………so as iam interested in civils …………as i mean that simply its not a civils ..i hav to do hard work a lot ………..so give me guidance regarding ………this so u hav given a lot of information ,,what to prepare? what not to prepare?how to prepare and how the syllabus was?…………….am thankfull to u for this…………….
I bet even if csat is removed still 60-70 % engineers will qualify for civil services.. its not because they are of super mind , its only because now in india 10 15 lakhs engineer are being manufactured in MSME type of institutions. so its easier to find B.tech degree holders than finding B.A or B.Sc.
u r absolutely right
Even before CSAT, they hv hijacked 40% of the seats in CSE, so bring it on remove the CSAT we dont care, vaise bhi itne easy paper ko krne k liye 2 ghnte baithna is a wastage of time.
very nice sir ji i am highly motivated u i have no word ..how to express………………………
there are more engineers than asses mules and donkeys and caterpillars in this country
of course if you count all the donation छाप engineers and doctors ……………… these donation छाप engineers cannot even clear group D railway job of the likes of gangman, and chaprasi and the same way donation छाप doctors will find it hard to tell a liver form a kidney………………………so from these graduates, who have actually their daddy’s to thank for the hefty donations, there is no danger to any serious humanity, commerce, or any other candidate…………………any humanity candidate can decimate such manufactured engineers and doctotrs any given day
Rightly said, I believe no engineer is agitating there. If you remove full csat paper and science part in mains , make it only humanity subjects we are ready to take up. we are engineers this is how we brought up, we blame no discipline . Any way this a competitive exam , lets compete…and those bogus engineering degree holders (of course they are not engineers) they can do nothing but to increase the contestant.
i dont want to waste my tym much so wanna put an end to the debate, while saying just onme thing that not just donated seats engineers dont study but even from iit guys never study, they do btech in mechanical n mtech or ms type in nuclear,i know that kind,they cant get a good paying job in their core branches then fanm out in management or other babu giri jobs,coz when they were in school they were fascinated by the high salaries of campus placements but by the tym they passed out recession came in,they never went to iits for a passion in engineering and technical things as they used to flaunt ki i m born as bill gates steve jobs, i like dismantling n making new technical toys,blah blah,now it is becoming apparent that they r in lust for fame power money, when i gave pmt ,free seats were just 2000 around and just in iit the num was 8000,forget the state level institutions,i dont know still how easy it has become to get into iit now, i want to wrap up from here as sum samaritans have urged me to study n give thm good competition rather waste tym, i m all happy with or without csat, was only reacting by the low marks in gs by ppl now in few years getting selected, i dont mind anything, anything, its my love to study as i m studying even after having everything in my life,not for an instrumental value ,lyk u can see many ppl showing honesty n diffidence to just the elite n famous to get famous quickly quitely ignoring the corruption n rash behavior of bad ppl on the road,now i m leaving this page for ever as it has precipitated a lot of hatred for me n i cant take it
madam, the problem with your argument is that you have not written the mains exam once and are still commenting on the amount of marks.How are you so sure about the incapacity of those poor toppers in this exam?
yes,according to your view point, everybody except engineers is so honest and never runs after money .. all these politicians,businessmen,even doctors and humanities guys just work for their passion and never think of money…they are so honest … really a very balanced,unbiased view u hv
Miss kiki ..Now You should focus on your study now, do not make it a cake walk for us.. study and give us a good competition, and yes you can call them donkey, but beware these donkey gonna grab your seat if you dont work hard..so work hard babe competition is tough, dont waste time here, would love to see you in LBSNAA miss benerjee
i dont mind csat as it will only help me when the less read will come to write mains n i will easily overpower them, and this year i have lost enough tym in coaching n kind, so wait to meet me in lbs the nxt tym, bt still u wont find any banerjee, just wait to see in cse2015 a female doctor from up will make big name,huh
Crying like this on forum won’t take you anywhere. Happy that you decided to leave this page , and spared us from your venomous spitting against the engineers.
Irony of our country is that those who are able to score high in a exam are being criticized and blamed for their good performances. GOD BLESS THE COUNTRY.
Overpower??? now i understand why you are cribbing about CSAT. And as per your own words “wait to meet me in LBS” ==> Implication = i will also be selected. Therefore tathastu…!!!
U scrap everything science, maths, logical etc etc…….put in all humanities subjects…..
still engineers will come more in numbers…
padhna likhna sadhe baayish…..aur road pe nautanki….
jitni mehnat protest me ker rhe, utni me to csat v nikal jaati….
sabko pakad ke jail me daalo….nautankibaajo ko….!!!
ekdum correct … !!
Msg to humanity student:
I am a engineering student, and i m not afraid of removal of CSAT.
Just tell me the syllabus atleast 2 month before the exam that’s it, baki jo krna ho kro, koi sa bhi subject rakho
Sahi bola bhai… Rok sako to rok lo.. We r coming, csat nikalo ya nahi, even if u change the content one day before the exam, we wud still be ready to face the heat… Yaar engineering mei itni pighal kar loha hue hai, aakhir kaam kab aayega :D
itna*
How about “mandrin”….. 2 mahine kya… 2-4 saal mein bhi samajh nahi aayegi…. Lol .. Kidding
yaar tum mandarin bhi dalwa loge na, to bhi engineers humanities walo se jaldi seekh ke exam clear kar lenge , naaki protest karne lagenge
How can u say that…. Engineers sab kuch kar lenge…. Tab toh phir… Medical-comm.-value aiewai hain…
Engineers are also coming from do-manjila imarat waley colleges….
Engineers from iit-nit hold better position… I accept that argument….. In that case so is the case of students coming from “SRCC-STEPHENS- LSR – Gargi ( fyi :: later 2 are best place for gedi)…
Aiese stereotype naa karo….
GOOD bhai, dont take it seriously…all this was in good humour…of course everyone has equal aptitude…but some people here are trying to humiliate engineers …it was a reaction to that :)
Bhai chilled raho…. Thoda sa has (laugh) loge to paise nahi jayenge :D
Bhai surprise!! Mandarin meri college mei optional subject hai…. kaash mandarin hi ho jaaye… atleast I will study the optionals :D
Protest kar lo….. Modi sahab ko bolo….. China se aage jana hai toh mandrin upsc ka sirf ek maatra optional hona chayeye….
Damn i m in love with KIKI.. <3
1-CSAT was recommended by Alagh committee because it’s the need of the hour…if some candidate has problem clearing it, he/she should prepare well and try to stand in the competition. Competitive exams can’t be changed at the whims and fancies of few aspirants
2- All questions are now in English as well as in Hindi. So, there’s no question of discrimination with Hindi guys…although, I agree that translation should be improved
3- Humanities guys are alleging discrimination…but they forget that entire GS and essay papers (5 papers) in mains, GS paper in pre and even optional (engineers also have to study humanities subjects because engineering subjects are too low scoring) are nothing but humanities papers which they have studied throughout their college…moreover, everyone has studied basic mathematics and english till 10th .. even engineers have become proficient in it by studying hard;they didn’t learn it by birth .. so, going by logic of anti csat protesters, entire GS portion should also be scrapped ..
Those who are not able to clear the exam are agitating while serious guys are studying for the exam…but the sad part is that media and politicians are representing this issue as if it is students v/s upsc…as if all the students are against csat,which is definitely not true .. so I appeal to pro CSAT guys to do something..those in Delhi should organize a pro CSAT agitation and present their view before media…all of us should write letters and emails to Mr Jitendra Singh (MOS-PMO) presenting our view and sign online petitions and send it to the government..
Earlier it was translation issue, thn it turned in to english biased, after that it turned in to anti CSAT, and now its humanity vs technical graduate.
Rip LOGIC!!!!
Good suggestion in fact thats wat I tried to do via twitter but seems PMO & other ministers tweet view are moderated and they appear only based on retweets (Since NM is v popular on twitter, I opted for this way else even Im quite inactive on Twitter) So request all Pro – CSAT guys to retweet my tweets on CSAT – https://twitter.com/Juhi35290466/with_replies … also tweet more/ post more on social media if we cant protest on roads .. dont forget to use #UPSC CSAT row! Lets take it on
Itni Shiddat Se humne UPSC Paas karne Ki Koshish Ki Hai
Ke sala Har kissi Ne humme paper na Dene Ki Saazish Ki Hai
Ye Exams Bhi Apne Hindi Filmon Ki Tarah Hote Hain
End Tak Sab Kuch idhar – udhar Hota rehta Hai aur climax ke baad – HAPPYS ENDINGS haaaah (SRR style)
Agar Tum Kisi Paper ko Paas karna Chahte Ho
To Saari Kaaynat Tumhe Usko Paas Karane Me Lag Jati Hai
Aur Agar Aisa Nahi Hota..
To Exam Abhi Khatam Nahi Hue
Decide hona Abhi Baaki Hai Mere Dost
I have a doubt.. will the duration of the paper 2 will be same as earlier?
As there is no official notification by UPSC as of now, cant say for sure, but it seems obvious that ppr will be of 2hrs, as there is no substantial change in exam pattern. and We should also attempt it like normal.
Guys lets be active on social media if we cant get on roads like goons of ABVP! in fact thats wat I tried to do via twitter but seems PMO & other ministers tweet view are moderated and they appear only based on retweets (Since NM is v popular on twitter, I opted for this way else even Im quite inactive on Twitter) So request all Pro – CSAT guys to retweet my tweets on CSAT – https://twitter.com/Juhi35290466/with_replies … also tweet more/ post more on social media if we cant protest on roads .. dont forget to use #UPSC CSAT row! Lets take it on
A good read for those who must be thinking – oh poor Hindi speaking guys … they are sidelined etc. etc. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/csat-row-ex-upsc-member-vijay-singh-says-abvp-pressure-on-government-too-strong-to-ignore/articleshow/39653514.cms
the most important thing is that pro csat guys in delhi should voice their opinion before media so that media and politicians should not think that all the aspirants are against csat. From what i’ve heard in media and from politicians, it appears that it’s a fight between students and upsc/govt .. we should make them realize that only some students are against csat, but they are too vocal … secondly, write to MOS-PMO and Secy,under-secy etc in PMO via email,letter and facebook,twitter etc … thirdly, search for pro csat petitions online and sign them …if someone is able to contact MOS etc, then they should personally meet them and explain our point of view .. spend some time in all these things,else,there would be no use of having spent so much time in csat preparation if it’s scrapped
We should not go on road and do violence. Time to show the difference and attitude we got.
Drop mails to Media ( newspaper, news channels president , PMO, AICTE, UPSC , any other government body you know ).
Each mail is important as it will show the number of mass candidates other then violence makers.
Your 15-20 minutes is very valuable. Please make your own views and start dropping mails.
Use the power of media. This is about INDIA!!! ( also make other to do the same make a strong chain , time to make them aware of our ROAR ).
Yes .. drop the mails and urge others to do the same .. but we should leave no stone unturned .. these media guys and politicians only see and hear what the few agitating aspirants are saying .. to voice our concerns, i think it’s also necessary that pro csat guys in Delhi start a peaceful pro csat dharna with their concerns written on a banner …. that’s because media only covers the agitations in Delhi … then atleast they’ll know that there exist pro CSAT aspirants also…if u fear violence in Mukherji Nagar, then u can do it in Rajinder Nagar …. some time devoted for this cause will save the numerous hours we’ve spent for preparing for CSAT… and also save our years and attempts which may be lost if CSAT is scrapped… but ofcourse, everyone has to send mails to media and ministers ..
Sir, upsc exm ki tyari self kisi trh se kre ki exm clear kar ske please sir guide me……..
i dont think we ppl r trying to understand the problem of hindi medium students, ya i do agree that the demand of a group of students may be odd but that doesnt mean the whole demand is wrong.
some of the point they r trying to put is that at some extent the upsc exm has become a ground to discriminate from english to other regional language( not only hindi). why we r so obsessed with english, if someone is comfortable with some other language let us not discriminate. the translation done in the papers are really wired, we talk about the 10th level english ( the english passage is ok) but is the english comprehension is that of 10th level. they face a lot of trouble in interview also, n this year 2013 english qualifying paper was so tough that even the english medium students found it tough( even it was mentioned by some toppers also). it is not like, they r nor trying to learn the english, but can they really compete with the person in english who is learning it from primary or a very early stage( there may be some exception, but the world does not work on exception). i knw some IAS of earlier batch who were not so sound in english n now posted in tamilnadu, kerla etc n they r doing a great job there. we ppl r comfortable in eng, no prob but why do they r being forced for that, some may say how do ppl gonna work as a IFS , so thts not a problem cze we can see that very less ppl opt for IFS and there can be a separate exm for that( just for eng for those interested in IFS). dont anybody find it fishy tht only 26 students selected from hindi medium n total 53 from hindi+other regional languages. earlier we heard the rumors that there may be a cut off for the csat paper, it would have been great if ws done, its ok if the upsc wanna test the aptitude through csat paper but there can be a cut off set for that.
coming to upsc, it has never followed the recommendation of any committee, csat was bought giving the argument that it want to scrap the coaching institute but we all knw the present scenario.( in actual case the recommendation was to bring 5 paper in order to make it a level playing field). it was also recommend by one of the committee that the essay paper to be checked by two persons as essay carries subjectivity, another was that the interview must be conducted by 3-4 board n find out the avg( we all know some of the board’s mark is really less).
so in my view we should not jump to any conclusion directly without understanding the situation.
and yes i would like to mention that m an engineer but that does not stop me to see the truth.
Human Beings and frogs are the two creatures in nature who have tremendous power to adjust. Put a frog in a vessel of water and start heating the water. As the temperature of the water rises, the frog is able to adjust its body temperature accordingly. The frog keeps on adjusting with increase in temperature. Just when the water is about to reach boiling point, the frog is not able to adjust anymore. At that point the frog decides to jump out. The frog tries to jump but is unable to do so, because it lost all its strength in adjusting with the water temperature. Very soon the frog dies. What killed the frog? Many of us would say the boiling water. But the truth is what killed the frog was its own inability to decide when it had to jump out.
We all need to adjust with people and situations, but we need to be sure when we need to adjust and when we need to face. There are times when we need to face the situation and take the appropriate action. If we allow people to exploit us physically, emotionally or financially, they will continue to do so. We have to decide when to jump. Let us jump while we still have the strength.
the same committee which recommended the csat also told that the students should be given time in order to adjust with the new pattern of examination but no time was given for that. n also the purpose of csat to scrap coaching institute was also not served. the ground reality should alwz be kept in mind.
CSAT RAHE NA RAHE DARTE KYU HO……MAI TO BANUNGA IAS WITH CSAT WITHOUT CSAT SYLABUSS ME SERPENTOLOGY ORNITHOLOGY HOROLGY KUCH BHI DAAL DE MAI LADUNGA PMO MOS ME TWEET SWEET NAHI KARUNGA MAI LADUNGA……
bilkul sahi, why ppl fear, wt will happen if csat is removed.
those ppl who r trying to justify themselves please go through this( copy n pasted).
The first thing that Verma Committee review of the entire c-sat is not just for English 8-9 was to consider the appropriateness of the questions. Dinanath Batra vs India Union ‘ [WP (C) No .651/2012] called the case decisions in the High Court had ordered the formation of the Committee, has complained of prtr in 8-9 had the questions. So if the report comes in favor of students of Indian languages, even if it is not full of linguistic discrimination issue segal-prilims ‘s, not the main exam nor interview. It will be that of the camel jire.
In fact, India’s Government must understand that the report of the Committee for her legally come of ease, but he does not abide by the perimeter of the report. She wants to discard the report and the examination of the system without any new report can bring change.
See some examples-1) Kothari Commission recommendation number 5, 6 and 7 was advised that under the initial examination should be 5 questionnaires – a Downing, an Indian language, a general studies and two optional subjects. The Government of India (& u. p. s. c.) has not kept in just 2 and preliminary examination paper.
2) Satish Chandra Committee recommend to start your essay in the questionnaires the number 5.0405 advised and told to remove the essay lies in the evaluation of atmanishthata for this assessment must be made of two independent examiners and average of two points should be given to removing the candidate points. The Government (and u. p. s. c.) the good advice not to date.
3) y. k. Alagh Committee recommendation that should be optional preliminary test subject and must be added to the c-set called paper. The Government (and u. p. s. c.) has added an optional subject and c-sat.
4) second administrative reforms Commission said in its recommendation number 5.5.3.7 preliminary examination should be two general studies paper, before applying the changes to the prospective candidates must be given enough time of course. The Government of India (& u. p. s. c.) has given no time without sudden changes in 2011 are implemented.
5) gave that interview nigvekar Committee recommendation in the evaluation of hyper-atmanishthata given each candidate should be made in all boards and interviews of all candidates should be given to the praptankon average points. This is fantastic advice has been put into junk cart.
Summary report of the Committee that wrote anything whether Verma, we request that the Government of India is using the same constitutional powers to decide that the majority of India’s population are helpful in getting justice.
yaha kuch online petitions sign ki jA RAHI hai ki dnt scrap csat…..wohi hindi medium ka kahna hai injustice na ho…csat se hindi medium students ko koi problm nahhi hai….AUR MATH AUR REASNG KAAFI PEHLE SE GS ME AATE RAHE HAI….fir se ek baar csat rahe haTE IAS BANNE KA DUM HAI TO BANO MAI TO BANUNGA……
can anyone plz tell me that a normal graduate student not honours can give the cse exam?if yes then what can he/she mention in the box contains subject taken in graduate as well as the interview form???plz response……..
Kindly upload interview of topper who has Political Science as optional.
gaurav bhai ignor mat krna bhai mere parents ko lagta h ki m ias n bn paunga bhai m privat clg uptu s b.tech ker rha hu mera isme man n lgta h ghar k halat jyada ache ni h bhai m ias nikalna hi nai top b krna chahta hu tb mere age 21hogi bhai m coachng b n ja skta aur n b.tech chor skta bhai koi advis do
HELLO SIR!! First of all many many congratulations to you on YOUR huge success.Getting 1st rank in upsc is really commendable.”HATS OFF TO YOU FOR THAT”. I read about you on mrunal.
Sir i actually want you to advise me on economics optional. I was a commerce student and i did bcom(hons) in my graduation. I always liked economics and i always scored well till my graduation. Sir i did GS classes also earlier from vajiram so i am pretty much clear about the general concepts of economics and i always got a interest to study economics or know more about that.
I saw majority of the people qualifying upsc, having economics as their optional, did economics (hons) in their graduation,( which i dont have), and also i saw the pdf files you posted on economics optional.After going throught the pdf files, i came to know more bout economics optional and a confusion arise at this time because i found out that the entire syllabus was based on the graphs and calculations(AND IT WAS ALL LOOKING VERY SCARY). Sir i always liked the basic concepts in economics and i am always eager to read economics news in the newspaper , but after seeing the pdf files i saw my interest doesnt lie in conformity with the pattern of economics optional ( GRAPHS AND NUMERICALS).
SO SIR PLEASE I REALLY WANT YOU TO ADVISE ME WHETHER I SHOULD GO FOR ECONOMICS OPTIONAL OR NOT. AND I DONT EVEN HAVE MUCH TIME TO DECIDE SINCE CLASSES ARE GOING TO START FROM THIS SEPTEMBER ( KALINGA IAS- I HOPE ITS A GOOD COACHING FOR ECO OPTIONAL). I WILL START READING SOME CHAPTERS BUT SINCE I DONT HAVE MUCH TIME TO READ TO KNOW THAT WHETHER I AM GETTING INTEREST IN ECO OPTIONAL OR NOT OR ELSE I SHOULD TAKE THE JANUARY BATCHES FOR ECO OPTIONAL AFTER KNOWING ABOUT THE OPTIONAL (BUT I THINK IT WILL BE A VERY LATE)..
WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY( AND IT WILL BE VERY NICE OF YOU SIR IF YOU COULD REPLY UR VALUABLE ADVISES BEFORE THIS MONTH ENDS. SIR UR ADVISES ARE GONNA BE REALLY VERY HELPFUL.
Hi Gaurav sir, first of all, a massive congrats to u for becoming topper. You have provided all of us with a very comprehensive preparation strategy. For, those people who oppose the quality of CSAT are born to sit back and cry over what they dont have. Instead they can put the time and energy on preparation to reach the level that UPSC requires of candidates.
All those who need motivation, read this :
“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. Its our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It’s not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”
So work hard guys, you can have whatever it is you want. ATB
Hello sir, congratulations for your selection in UPSC exam . Sir i need your help in solving a last year mains question of GS which stated as:
Male membership needs to be encouraged in order to make women’s organisation free from gender bias . Comment?
I would like to know what all points have you included while attempting this question .
I will be very grateful for your guidance .
Thank you
sir as a student when you was reading in the IIt then what are you thinking i were preparing the big and big examinatio of this country?