- Scores of Toppers in Civil Service (Mains)-2011
- Categorywise Highest scores in CSAT paper I and II?
- Highest scores in Mains Exam of 2011
- Topper Scores in CSAT 2011 (GS+Aptitude)
- Mains Answersheets of toppers in CSM 2011
- Optional subject removal, Nigavenkar Committee Report
- Answerkeys for truckload of allied exams
- Indian Forest Service (IFS)
- Epilogue
Scores of Toppers in Civil Service (Mains)-2011
Q6. Please give the breakup of the marks scored by the candidates of the final merit list of the CSM Exam 2011, including the names of the optionals they had taken, and the marks scored in each written paper.
UPSC replies: Subject wise marks of the candidates is information personal to them, hence exempted under Section 8(1)(j) of the RTI Act is invoked. Moreover, no public interest is apparent. However, written, total/PT/final marks of the recommended candidates could be provided. For that, the Information seeker needs to be deposit Rs.42/- as the information comprises 21 pages.
Mrunal Comments
- Public interest is totally apparent. What is ‘personal’ about subjectwise marks of toppers!
Categorywise Highest scores in CSAT paper I and II?
Q7 What was the categorywise Highest mark scored in each Paper I and Paper II of Civil Services Preliminary Exam 2011 (CSE (Preliminary) 2011)
UPSC replies
There were no separate cut off for individual papers and the cut off marks were based on the aggregate marks obtained in both the papers put together. Data regarding highest marks obtained by any candidate in Paper-land Paper-ii is not compiled.
Mrunal comments: That doesn’t mean the data is not ‘available’ in your files.
Highest scores in Mains Exam of 2011
Q8. What was the categorywise highest mark scored in each paper of CSM 2011?
UPSC replies: Category wise highest marks scored in each paper of CS(M) Exam, 2011 cannot be provided as same is not available in a compiled form.
Topper Scores in CSAT 2011 (GS+Aptitude)
Q9. Provide the Marks scored by following candidates in CSE (Preliminary) 2011 (Mrunal to readers: these people are top 3 rankers in CSE-2011, I wanted to know their scores in prelims)
| CSE (Preliminary) 2011 | |||
| Name | Roll No. | Paper I (GS) | Paper II (Aptitude) |
| Shena Aggarwal | 233541 | ||
| Rukmani Riar | 27895 | ||
| Prince Dhawan | 1804 | ||
UPSC replies
| CSE (Preliminary) 2011 | Total (Rounded Off) | |||
| Name | Roll No. | Paper I (GS) | Paper II (Aptitude) | |
| Shena Aggarwal (Rank 1) | 233541 | 110 | 156.68 | 267 |
| Rukmani Riar (Rank 2) | 27895 | 69.34 | 130 | 199 |
| Prince Dhawan (Rank 3) | 1804 | 95.34 | 146.68 | 242 |
Mrunal comments
Wait a minute, why are you (UPSC) giving this information to me? Afterall if Subject wise marks of the candidates is information personal to them, hence exempted under Section 8/1/j of R.T.I (like you said in previous question), then these CSAT marks of each paper, should also be personal to them, because you make prelims cut off list after combining the marks!
Mains Answersheets of toppers (2011)
Q10. Please provide me the answer scripts of the top 5 candidates of the select list of Civil Service Mains (CSM-2011).
UPSC replies
The information cannot be provided as Answer Sheets of Civil Service (main) have already been weeded out as per the Record Retention Schedule approved by the Commission.
Mrunal comments: Too bad. These toppers’ answersheets could have served as lighthouse for future aspirants (especially since UPSC refused to give ‘model-answerkeys for mains exam’ in my previous R.T.I application.
Optional subject removal, Nigavekar Committee
Q11. Please furnish information on the status of the Nigavekar Committee appointed by the UPSC, including the copy of the mandate setting up the committee, and the copies of mandates giving extensions to the said committee, if any. However, if the Committee has submitted its report, please give a copy of the report. Has UPSC given any deadline/ time limit to that committee to frame its report?
UPSC replies
It is informed that Prof. Nigavekar Committee Report has been received by the Commission on 30.8.2012 and the recommendations of the Committee, after due consideration of the Commission have been forwarded to Govt. of India on 31.10.2012 and their response is awaited.
It is further informed that the copy of the report/recommendations have not been made available to Public Information Officer by the Public Authority. Thus, Seaion 8(1)(d) of the RTI Act, 2005 is invoked, Public Authority being affected third Party.
Mrunal Comments:
Well, I already knew that a week before (thanks to Mr.Partho). Seems UPSC is going to do everything to protect the Top Secret information related to optional subject removal, disregarding the fact that many candidates are in limbo and coaching factories are making a killing due to this uncertainty.
Answerkeys for truckload of allied exams
Q12. Please provide the official answer keys/ model answers, category wise cutoffs, mark sheets of the candidates securing the first and last ranks in his/her category of the following exams: Combined Defence Services (I) Exam, 2011; National Defence Academy & Naval Academy Exam (I), 2011; Engineering Services Exam, 2011; Indian Forest Service Exam, 2011; National Defence Academy & Naval Academy Exam (II), 2011; Combined Defence Services (II) Exam, 2011; Central Police Force (Assistant Commandant) Exam, 2011.
UPSC replies
- Information in respect of CDS & NDA cannot be provided since the final selection of candidates is made by the Ministry of Defence.
- Regarding CPF (Asstt. Commandant), it is that since the examination process is not yet completely over, the marks secured by the last recommended candidates cannot be disdosed.
(Mrunal edit- they only gave cut off marks of IFS exam)
Indian Forest Service (IFS)
| CATEGORY | Marks obtained by last selected candidate |
| GEN | 832 |
| OBC | 773 |
| SC | 731 |
| ST | 709 |
| PH (BLIND, LOW VISION) | 553 |
| PH (HEARING IMPAIRMENT) | 476 |
Epilogue
I’m not satisfied with most of the answers given by the CPIO. Therefore, I’m going to file an appeal to the FAA, after consulting my R.T.I expert friend
To see the Scanned Copy of Original UPSC letter, Click ME
AMAZING WORK MRUNAL. EVEN I DO FILE RTI APPLICATIONS FOR COMMON CAUSE IN MY SURROUNDINGS SO I KNOW HOW LABOURIOUS IS THE TASK….. HATS OFF…. UPSC WILL FEEL THE PINCH AND IN DAYS TO COME WE MAY EXPECT A TRANSPARENT FUNCTIONING OF UPSC……….
What will be next stage after report is forwarded to government of india and what are the chances that changes will implement from 2013?
Pavan has raised a important question…
Dear Mrunal Sir, Could you please answer this?
Does it require to be passed by Parliament?
Since the winter session is going on. Someone can ask MPs to raise this question in the Parliament else walk out as usual :P
..now we should do n rti to tht department……..tht is the best solution i feel to be.
Can any one file RTI for “No. of days taken by Government to approve changes” in IAS pre exam i.e. CSAT, after suggested changes given by committee? It will help in determine.
hi mrunal sir plz respond pawan’s issue….
Nice! :) You asked a ‘truckload’ of questions!! What surprises me the most is Rukmani Riars marks in Prelims! :O Anyways, it is not a point of discussion. But you go ahead and file FAA.
Hi Mrunal, thanks a lot for the above info……One thing that is clarified in document is that there is no sectional cut-off for Prelims. Can you plz tell us what was the Cut-off for Prelims 2011/2010/2009 etc. for General category?
it is given in this link: https://mrunalmanage.wpcomstaging.com/2012/07/rti-upsc-cse2011-mru.html
nice mrunal,you are amazing
Hello Mrunal,
I am an aspirant for UPSC civil services exam and about to start preparation for CSE 2013. I have prepared this plan/strategy for prelims which I intend to follow for next 6 months…..I need your comments on this.
1. Going through previous years question papers…………
2. Reading all related NCERT books twice (if possible thrice)……..
3. Bipin Chandra for History, Geography by Goh Cheng Leong, Economy by Ramesh Singh, Google news and Wikipedia for Environment and biodiversity, Indian Polity by M Laxmikant,
4. For Current affairs Reading Newspaper (BS and TOI), one Magazine (CSR) Regularly
5. Reading Economic Survey of India, India Year Book
6. Solving TMH guide (both CSAT I & II) ……..
7. Appearing for Rau’s online Test Series
This is what I am thinking to do. Is it possible to do it in next six months? I mean is 6 months time period good enough? Uptil now, I have not been able to give much time for study due to job. But I am free now since I have resigned. I want to start a fresh now.
Please reply. Your comments are very important to me. Thank you in advance.
Please , please replace TOI with HINDU
Prepare for GS Mains and Prelims simultaneously . You will save a lot of time
kudos to you……sure makin them sweat
198 was cut off, 2nd rank got 199in prelims……… what the …..
and she got 311 marks in gs mains….. i would say she would be among the top5 in gs mains….. what a tranformation
Amazing!
sir have you any information regarding 2012 prelim cut-off for general category?
what to read for economic and geography other than NCERT?
thankyou
If UPSC is the cabinet, Mrunal is shadow cabinet and we are in Britain.. :)
nice comment :) …. really mrunal sir is doing gr88 job …
Still Rukmini Riar managed to score highest in GS in Mains :o
Great work mrunal, it is very informative.
Could you please write one article on “RTI” explaining
1) how & whom to approach Govt office
2) What kind of questions can we ask (can we ask about budget of their office?)
3) Whom to approach in case if we didn’t receive any reply.
I think this will be helpful for lot us.
We should see Rukmani’s marks in a positive light. Even if you are at the border line after giving prelims exam, keep preparing. This is because once you are in, the race starts afresh. Rukmani is an inspiration for those who are not very good in the CSAT format.
thank u sir .the printers and publishers will make enough before the information come out
Hey guys check this out(This fodder you may not digest)
http://tsanewindia.blogspot.in/
The info given in the website about UPSC is true? I can’t believe…if it is true,UPSE just maked CSE as a gambling game…
Till it won’t happen to anyone of us it’s all hunky-dory.
I know a friend of mine(gave interview) who got below 30 marks in paper 1 in hindi(mains) still managed total in hindi260(30+230) got 175 in interview but finally couldn’t make through. He only contemplated action, but couldn’t take action. coz he has still one attempt left.Now if only his marks were above 100(conservative estimate according to him)he would have made it . He was damm sure something terrible happended from upsc side.
What is increasingly become evident now through RTI’s that the precess is not, to say the least,technically error free.
Hope I don’t get molested by UPSC in such high handed manner.
The problem is the OMR scanner. Dont erase and try to disturb the coding.
If your foolish Idea is adopted this world would be mad place. you didn,t get it, did you? nobody goes to the CIC just because he is bitten by some crazy freaking dog.
UPSC is playing with most of the serious aspirants lives… this is ridiculous and disgusting.
sir , please provide sum info abt I.T. ACT
thx a ton Mrunal
Rukmani Riar ke prelims marks dekhke yahi lagta hai ki jab uppar wala saath mein ho toh koi kya ukhaad lega…199 marks…198 is cutoff….kismat ye hoti hai bhai dekh lo….bandi ne mains mein chauke-chakke laga diye..maar di baaji. hamari kismat kyon footi hui hai…saala 2012 mein 205 par bhi nahin hua. ye kaho first attempt tha …ab PT ka matlab yahi hai ki CSAT wale paper ki aisi-taisi kar do.
you are right ” LUCK DOES MATTERS ” but it doesn’t mean people should stop studying….
Mrunalji,I secured 831marks in my first attempt.simultaneously I appeared for other competitive exams (as preliminary format changed)such as lic,niacl,UI,I have been selected as an administrative officer cadre posts and as a p.o.in an rrb also.but my dream is to become an ias officer.so I didn’t join any of the 6posts.in my second attempt I cleared prelims.i could not write mains 2012 due to serious illness.it was an unfortunate thing.it took much time for me to adjust my mind and come back to studies.but people around me started commenting me and my parents for choosing this field as they feel that iam not competent as I completed my schooling and college education from a small town.but the desire to become an ias officer is imprinted in my heart.but iam losing focus unable to bear comments
What should I do.how to motivate myself
@Laxmi..Friend Keep this Desire on You will Definitely get success.Just don’t Focus on those comments.Everyone has to bear these things if they want to do something big in his life.So keep Continue Without worrying you will definitely get success.
Best OF Luck.
This is normal for almost everybody who is already not from this kind of background. Everybody has to face it, no other choice! increase the appetite for criticism, that is the only solution.
Lakshmiji,plz take up best job like a.o. with less workload n once joining offce u can go for medical(fake) leave n den stdy 4 xam.ppl surrounding u will nt leave a chance 2 criticize u n let u down.these ppl will make r parents against us.b bold n take these things(humiliation) as +ve motivation 2 achieve ur goal.all d best.dnt feel bad,v all aspirants are rowing in same boat.if u still feel bad u can read bhagwat gita which is written in lucid style.it is greatest buk n motivator
join bank PO job…better than IAS
@sri..make ki third form made hoti hai
i knw yaar.when i gone through the particular blog,literally i was in tremondous shock and i couldn’t even think abt what i am typing.any ways thanks for correction.
Actually, Ashish, correct your own mistakes first before pointing out ridiculous flaws in others. The sentence written by Sri required the SECOND form of ‘make’ not the third, that is, simple past and not past perfect. If you want to nitpick, make sure that your own English is flawless, nincompoop.
Lolz! Two blind men fighting over the beauty of a girl!
hey mr.mrunal i request you please see this site http://tsanewindia.blogspot.in/
please esplain me whats is that??
sir…u hav done an extremely nice job….Babus must b vry angry…!!!
@laxmi life is full of ups & downs,it’s about those who despite initial failures,can envisage the bigger terminus be the dark horse of a long race, not a mouse of a small one. Rejuvenate yourself by perusing some biographies/life-story of peoples, who despite hard-times had notched the peak.struggle for success,not for life…..
Sir regarding IFS marks…..are these marks include interview marks also…
mrunal sir, thanks for this effort and regarding non disclosure of information under section 8(1)j please refer the following would be really helpful:
Central Information Commission
Mr.Moti Lal Prasad vs Reserve Bank Of India on 13 September, 2011
CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION
Club Building (Near Post Office)
Old JNU Campus, New Delhi – 110067
Tel: +91-11-26161796
Decision No. CIC/SM/A/2011/001595/SG/14559
Appeal No. CIC/SM/A/2011/001595/SG
Relevant facts emerging from the Appeal:
Appellant : Mr. Moti Chand Prasad MS Office, 2nd Floor
Sir Sunder Lal Hospital
Varanasi-221005(UP)
Respondent : Mr. T. B. Satyanarayan PIO & General Manager
Reserve Bank of India,
RBI Services Board, RBI Building
3rd Floor, Opp. Mumbai Central Railway Station Byculla-400008(Mumbai)
RTI application filed on : 10/01/2011 PIO replied on : 15/03/201, 27/01/2011 First Appeal filed on :
04/02/2011 First Appellate Authority order on : Not Mentioned Second Appeal received on : 27/05/2011
Sl. Information Sought PIO’s Reply
1. Total individual marks obtained by each ST candidates those who qualified in written test Information held
on 16-10-2005 for the recruitment of GRADE ‘B’ OFFICER in RBI. cannot be
2. Total individual marks obtained in written test(phase II) by each ST candidate those who furnished U/s
qualified in written test (phase I) held on 16-10-2005 for recruitment of GRADE ‘B’ 8(1)(j). OFFICER in RBI.
3. Merit list of finally selected ST candidates for appointment those who qualified in written test(phase II) &
interview for the recruitment of GRADE ‘B’ OFFICER in RBI.
Grounds for the First Appeal:
Information not provided U/s 8(1)(j).
Order Of the First Appellate Authority:
Ordered CPIO to revisit the queries of the Appellant and furnish information about the successful candidates.
Mr.Moti Lal Prasad vs Reserve Bank Of India on 13 September, 2011
Indian Kanoon – http://indiankanoon.org/doc/140170/ 1
Ground of the Second Appeal:
No information received regarding the queries.
Relevant Facts emerging during Hearing:
The following were present:
Appellant: Mr. Moti Chand Prasad on video conference from NIC-Varanasi Studio; Respondent: Mr. T. B.
Satyanarayan, PIO & General Manager on video conference from NIC- Mumbai Studio;
The PIO states that information regarding query-1 is not available since it has been destroyed as per the record
retention schedule. The PIO has provided the marks of the successful candidates as per the order of the FAA.
But has not provided marks of the unsuccessful candidates claiming exemption under Section 8(1)(j) of the
RTI Act. The Commission is not able to appreciate how marks of successful candidates can be held not to be
covered by exemption under Section 8(1)(j) whereas the marks of unsuccessful candidates are considered to
be exempted under Section 8(1)(j). The Commission also rules that marks of candidates who appear for exams
cannot be held to invasion on the privacy of an individual as defined under Section 8(1)(j) of the RTI Act. The
information is personal but is generated in the course of the public activity and the marks of the individual
candidates cannot be considered to be invasion on the privacy of an individual.
Decision:
The Appeal is allowed.
The PIO is directed to provide the information on query-2 regarding the marks obtained by the unsuccessful
candidates to the Appellant before 05 October 2011. This decision is announced in open chamber.
Notice of this decision be given free of cost to the parties. Any information in compliance with this Order will
be provided free of cost as per Section 7(6) of RTI Act.
Shailesh Gandhi
Information Commissioner
13 September 2011
(In any correspondence on this decision, mention the complete decision number.) (D J)
Mr.Moti Lal Prasad vs Reserve Bank Of India on 13 September, 2011
Indian Kanoon – http://indiankanoon.org/doc/140170/ 2
hi mrunal thanks for providing such a vital information regarding cut off marks of first three toppers. marks of rukmani riar air 2 shows that u can succeed with good rank even if you dont do better in pt.
Uttarakhand PCS mains format has been changed. There are no longer any optional subjects in mains exam. The new subjects added besides G.S are Maths, Science, History, Economics.
U.K PCS was not following CSAT pattern. Now lets wait and watch what UPSC does.
hey, can u tell me, if u already know, or ask then in ur next rti as and when u apply, the exact upsc method of scaling optional marks, the formula they use and do they scale interview marks of different panels as well???
Respected Sir,
I am an aspirant for CSE-2013. Please suggest me a book for Geography for General Studies part.
cover ncert’s of class 9th to 12th first of all..
Thank you Saurabh a lot.