- Scores of Toppers in Civil Service (Mains)-2011
- Categorywise Highest scores in CSAT paper I and II?
- Highest scores in Mains Exam of 2011
- Topper Scores in CSAT 2011 (GS+Aptitude)
- Mains Answersheets of toppers in CSM 2011
- Optional subject removal, Nigavenkar Committee Report
- Answerkeys for truckload of allied exams
- Indian Forest Service (IFS)
- Epilogue
Scores of Toppers in Civil Service (Mains)-2011
Q6. Please give the breakup of the marks scored by the candidates of the final merit list of the CSM Exam 2011, including the names of the optionals they had taken, and the marks scored in each written paper.
UPSC replies: Subject wise marks of the candidates is information personal to them, hence exempted under Section 8(1)(j) of the RTI Act is invoked. Moreover, no public interest is apparent. However, written, total/PT/final marks of the recommended candidates could be provided. For that, the Information seeker needs to be deposit Rs.42/- as the information comprises 21 pages.
Mrunal Comments
- Public interest is totally apparent. What is ‘personal’ about subjectwise marks of toppers!
Categorywise Highest scores in CSAT paper I and II?
Q7 What was the categorywise Highest mark scored in each Paper I and Paper II of Civil Services Preliminary Exam 2011 (CSE (Preliminary) 2011)
UPSC replies
There were no separate cut off for individual papers and the cut off marks were based on the aggregate marks obtained in both the papers put together. Data regarding highest marks obtained by any candidate in Paper-land Paper-ii is not compiled.
Mrunal comments: That doesn’t mean the data is not ‘available’ in your files.
Highest scores in Mains Exam of 2011
Q8. What was the categorywise highest mark scored in each paper of CSM 2011?
UPSC replies: Category wise highest marks scored in each paper of CS(M) Exam, 2011 cannot be provided as same is not available in a compiled form.
Topper Scores in CSAT 2011 (GS+Aptitude)
Q9. Provide the Marks scored by following candidates in CSE (Preliminary) 2011 (Mrunal to readers: these people are top 3 rankers in CSE-2011, I wanted to know their scores in prelims)
| CSE (Preliminary) 2011 | |||
| Name | Roll No. | Paper I (GS) | Paper II (Aptitude) |
| Shena Aggarwal | 233541 | ||
| Rukmani Riar | 27895 | ||
| Prince Dhawan | 1804 | ||
UPSC replies
| CSE (Preliminary) 2011 | Total (Rounded Off) | |||
| Name | Roll No. | Paper I (GS) | Paper II (Aptitude) | |
| Shena Aggarwal (Rank 1) | 233541 | 110 | 156.68 | 267 |
| Rukmani Riar (Rank 2) | 27895 | 69.34 | 130 | 199 |
| Prince Dhawan (Rank 3) | 1804 | 95.34 | 146.68 | 242 |
Mrunal comments
Wait a minute, why are you (UPSC) giving this information to me? Afterall if Subject wise marks of the candidates is information personal to them, hence exempted under Section 8/1/j of R.T.I (like you said in previous question), then these CSAT marks of each paper, should also be personal to them, because you make prelims cut off list after combining the marks!
Mains Answersheets of toppers (2011)
Q10. Please provide me the answer scripts of the top 5 candidates of the select list of Civil Service Mains (CSM-2011).
UPSC replies
The information cannot be provided as Answer Sheets of Civil Service (main) have already been weeded out as per the Record Retention Schedule approved by the Commission.
Mrunal comments: Too bad. These toppers’ answersheets could have served as lighthouse for future aspirants (especially since UPSC refused to give ‘model-answerkeys for mains exam’ in my previous R.T.I application.
Optional subject removal, Nigavekar Committee
Q11. Please furnish information on the status of the Nigavekar Committee appointed by the UPSC, including the copy of the mandate setting up the committee, and the copies of mandates giving extensions to the said committee, if any. However, if the Committee has submitted its report, please give a copy of the report. Has UPSC given any deadline/ time limit to that committee to frame its report?
UPSC replies
It is informed that Prof. Nigavekar Committee Report has been received by the Commission on 30.8.2012 and the recommendations of the Committee, after due consideration of the Commission have been forwarded to Govt. of India on 31.10.2012 and their response is awaited.
It is further informed that the copy of the report/recommendations have not been made available to Public Information Officer by the Public Authority. Thus, Seaion 8(1)(d) of the RTI Act, 2005 is invoked, Public Authority being affected third Party.
Mrunal Comments:
Well, I already knew that a week before (thanks to Mr.Partho). Seems UPSC is going to do everything to protect the Top Secret information related to optional subject removal, disregarding the fact that many candidates are in limbo and coaching factories are making a killing due to this uncertainty.
Answerkeys for truckload of allied exams
Q12. Please provide the official answer keys/ model answers, category wise cutoffs, mark sheets of the candidates securing the first and last ranks in his/her category of the following exams: Combined Defence Services (I) Exam, 2011; National Defence Academy & Naval Academy Exam (I), 2011; Engineering Services Exam, 2011; Indian Forest Service Exam, 2011; National Defence Academy & Naval Academy Exam (II), 2011; Combined Defence Services (II) Exam, 2011; Central Police Force (Assistant Commandant) Exam, 2011.
UPSC replies
- Information in respect of CDS & NDA cannot be provided since the final selection of candidates is made by the Ministry of Defence.
- Regarding CPF (Asstt. Commandant), it is that since the examination process is not yet completely over, the marks secured by the last recommended candidates cannot be disdosed.
(Mrunal edit- they only gave cut off marks of IFS exam)
Indian Forest Service (IFS)
| CATEGORY | Marks obtained by last selected candidate |
| GEN | 832 |
| OBC | 773 |
| SC | 731 |
| ST | 709 |
| PH (BLIND, LOW VISION) | 553 |
| PH (HEARING IMPAIRMENT) | 476 |
Epilogue
I’m not satisfied with most of the answers given by the CPIO. Therefore, I’m going to file an appeal to the FAA, after consulting my R.T.I expert friend
To see the Scanned Copy of Original UPSC letter, Click ME
respected mrunal,
im PH candidate(ortho)and im the aspirant of Indian forest service exam.am i eligible to write the ifs exam and what will be the physical requirements and functional classification and also i want to know the minimum mark in gk paper since upsc has told that minimum qualifying mark in gk paper is required then only the optionals will be corrected. please do kind help to me by giving the above details.
Guys,it is quite evident that there were no sectional cut off(prelims) last year, but i feel that last year’s ramification of a majority of MBA students clearing the prelims n flunking at the mains level forced upsc to have sectional cut off this year….i was xpecting 210(70+140) but still didnt clear the pre….the cut off cannot go beyond dis….may be the sectional cut off in paper 1 was around 75-80
How can Rukmani Riar get rank 2 by scoring 199 when Prince Dhawan got rank 3 by scoring 242?
Please ignore/delete my previous two comments with the name “asfd”. They got sent by mistake.
because marks scored in prelims (CSAT) are not counted for final merit list.
Final merit list is prepared using the marks scored in Mains + Interview.
guys plz help me out….if der was no sectional cut off dis year…n d overall cut off went around 220…den i should continue to pursue the same strategy of concentrating more on csat where i m confident of securing around 150 and somehow manage 2 score around 80 in paper 1
i was getting around 70-75 in paper 1 and 155 in paper 2… did clear..and i dont think, there was any sectional cutoff..
@saurabh….den wat xplains my situation?why didnt i clear?i need certain degree of clarity so that i dnt repeat the same mistake…..scoring 90-100 in paper 1 is a difficult proposition…due to the nature of questions…(a.1 is correct b. 1 n 2 are correct c. 1 2 n 3 are correct d. 1 2 3 n 4 are correct)even if u knw a lot of thngs u miss out on certain kind of information….so d safest bet is 2 concentrate on csat which guarantees u 150 if u practise….but if der wil b sectional cut off 120-130 is sufficient…..i need 2 make a strategy accordingly….so help me guys in my ordeal….
because when u check with answer keys next year, u will realise u din’t actually score 210 marks……
yes sib, maybe u didnt score 210 afterall…bcoz not every answerkey was totally correct…focussing too much on csat and less on gs will cost u later, bcoz clearing pre is nt the aim..aim is to score gud in mains… if we are gud in gs, we can go thru pre for sure, mains most probably n make it to final merit list. i didnt devote even a single minute for paper 2 of pre, still 155+ was sure…and in GS , i wud hv scored 80 max…dont think too much abt cutoff, focus on GS, we can get even 90-100 next yr if we got 70 atleast this year.
i want pdf format data
Hats off to u sir, an excellent and highly appreciated work done by a civil servant/aspirant so far, this will really help the future aspirants to work upon their strategies and will have less study load and phobias over them.
Excellent work done by mrunal, it’s really the over-load was reduced on the aspirants for what you are doing and mentally preparing for the aspirants to come up with flying colours??
hats off u sir…excellent work…
sir i have a question…assume that in 2013 , there will be change in main examination…so what will be the new pattern of the main examination…any idea sir ???
thank you…
MRUNALJI,
I think that now, we can safely conclude that mains pattern is definitely going to change from 2013, isn’t. What do you think? Kindly share your views.
Thank You
wont be changing for sure in 2013. mains pattern change is nt a minor change and such an important landmark change would not be done in a hurry, it’s already nov last week…
upsc is going to give enuf time to students to adapt fr change.
for just removing map questn in geography paper 1, they did it over a period of 3 years not right away. in 1st yr, they gave map questn as an optional unlike as compulsory till 2007, next yr, they put it as a subpart in one of the optional questns, n next yr, they totally get rid of it.
so, it gives us an idea, that they would only bring the change gradually and if they will make sum huge changes, enuf tym wud be given to adapt accordingly.
Mains pattern will change for sure,reason,just today UP-PCS announced that from now on there will not be any optionals,and for UPSC change is gonna happen because it won’t happen in 2014 owing to the coming election and considering that major vote bank giving the exam is from upper india,so 2013 seems to see the change,plus the main exam date have been shifted a month ahead and this has never happened in past(2-3 days chalta hai but a month!!)…..if u don’t blv me just wait and see….
any link to substantiate this announcement?
please give me valuable suggestion over can I subscribe Upscportal premium ship for current affairs of gist of yojana .the hindu.pib and its monthly magzine you can on it on upscportal.com I am waiting give me reply on my e.mail Qamar112@rediffmail.com
it may change or not,we should prepare to tackle all types of weapons of UPSC.there is no other way to come out of this war with winning hearts.so frnds be ready and be prepar strategically
don’t waste u r valuable time with flawless thoughts which distracts u r attention.
mrunalji has clearly mentioned what kind of babus or madams really wants by UPSC.If we look at the pattern clearly from 2010,will understand that what UPSC expects from future aspirants.
Mrunal,
Gross irregularities in RTI responses from UPSC!
It is well known that UPSC “destroys” Prelims answer-sheets and doesn’t not provide it under RTI.
Please have look at this!
http://tsanewindia.blogspot.in/2012/11/first-time-in-history-upsc-has-provided.html
Dear Mrunal,
Can you make this louder, so that the better lession can be learned by the respective culprits..
http://www.change.org/petitions/irregularities-in-the-indian-civil-services-examination
Support required for more transparent UPSC.
Hi!
I just signed the petition “IRREGULARITIES IN THE INDIAN CIVIL SERVICES EXAMINATION” on Change.org.
It’s important. Will you sign it too? Here’s the link:
http://www.change.org/petitions/irregularities-in-the-indian-civil-services-examination
Thanks!
abhijeet
hey! upsc’s website is not opening from mid night of 26 th november………are you able to access it???
Yeah Max,
UPSC website is down for the last three days.
Hey max,
You can access the site with this address
http://203.94.243.90/
interesting :) AKASH P
How u came to knw abt this address?
k sorry sir,i will keep your words.plz tell optional is or not sir for coming civil exams sir
Hi Mrunalji,
A suggestion. Given that the report is with DoPT, is it worth filing an RTI to DoPT regarding their plans and intentions.
well wouldn’t hurt trying, after all it costs only 15 rupees (10 for IPO, 5 for postal stamp) :)
Mrunal ji this is fantastic. UPSC will surely be forced to reform iself and voluntarily disclose the final marks of candidates . Also this is the first time i heard that Nigaverkar commission has submitted its report and forwarded it to the ministry .As u have rightly said i am in a limbo regarding whether to study for optionals or not. Also i heard a news from a friend of a friend who happens to be the nephew of a influential politician in Delhi that UPSC has already prepared all the syllabus etc for the new exam pattern and that there is 95% chance for pattern change next year .
upsc seems so desparate to change the syllabus that it hastily sent the recommended changes to govt. and even not disclosing anything about their report…but I am positive about this govt… they will thoroughly read it—it will take their remaining ruling years and do their best to understand the recommendation–and again it will take time(I don’t know how much).
UPSC is actually behind schedule(many states have already implemented change at mains level). If they can go ahead with FDI(retail), why not this one. Why Nigaverkar Committee?———>change…….only logical.
wow. even if they failed in GS prelims scoring as low as 60% they managed to not just pass but top CSE. awesome. what able administrators they will be indeed.
Not 60 but 35%
and she also scored over 300 in GS mains !
You should try for the exam. I am sure you can easily get 80% in prelims. ek baar dekar to dekhiye exam aur phir bolna.
well said man…
Dear Neha & Raman,
Seems you guys have “never ever,even sit” in “any” of the competitive examinations,leave aside UPSC…the BAAP of all competitions!!! So i must tell you that all competitive examinations are based on relative performance & is not a university examination & cut off always hover around 50% or less for all(eg CAT,SAT IIT JEE etc).So if she could top with “35%” marks or whatever than just imagine if you could come in even top 100 which is a dream of half a million then you would score even less than that!!! WHAT A SHAME ON YOU!! At least do some research before criticizing others else you yourself become a topic of mockery for loads!
Does that IFS exam cut off also includes interview marks?
Mrunal, as said above. It is better to ask DoPT regarding optionals or no optional. Regarding public purpose apparent or not apparent it can be written that due to huge in-certainty regarding exam potential bright candidate may miss-out opting next year exam or will fall in lap of coaching center which will work disadvantage to candidates who cannot afford coaching fees.
UPSC IS WORST SELECTION COMMITTEE EVER.THEY THINK THEY ARE ULTIMATE AND ON TOP OF THE WORLD AND ARE NOT ANSWERABLE TO ANYBODY.
dear mrunal
do you know wat r the cutt-offs for the cse-2012 prelims?