- Prologue
- My Question: Model Answerpapers
- My Question on removal of optionals
- My Question on CSAT answerkeys
- My Question: CSE 2011 Cutoffs at each stage
- Scanned copy of RTI reply
Prologue
Earlier, some people had sent me scanned images of RTI replies related to CSAT 2011 cutoffs but some readers had said they were fake letters. I had some doubts myself about the authenticity of those anonymous RTIs, So on 26th June 2012, I (Mrunal) myself had filed an RTI to UPSC asking a bunch of questions and they’ve sent the reply today (July-25-2012) so here it goes. [And the Original letter of UPSC has been posted at the bottom of this article]
To,
CPIO-Joint Director (Examination),
UPSC, New Delhi
Sub: Application under RTI 2005, about Civil Service Examination (CSE)
My Question: Model Answerpapers
Does UPSC provide model answer-papers to the examiners for CSE (Mains) examination? If “yes”, then provide model answer-papers given to the examiners for the following subjects, in CSE (Mains) 2010 and CSE (Mains) 2011.
i. General Studies Paper I and II (English Medium)
ii. Public Administration Paper I and II (English Medium)
iii. Essay (English Medium and Hindi Medium)
UPSC replied
No. [we donot provide model answersheets to examiners for Mains Exam!]
Mrunal comments
but I still believe that atleast GS (Mains) Model answersheet exists, otherwise how can xyz professor who is checking your GS mains papers, know the correct answer of all 2 markers by himself, when even we’ve hard time finding their answers at home after the exam?
So, UPSC must be giving him some sort of booklet containing the correct answers for GS Mains questions- atleast for the 2 markers and yearbook question. Certainly every professor can’t be knowing all the Government schemes by heart! I’m going to file an Appeal against this RTI reply, to Joint Secretary of UPSC.
My Question on removal of optionals
2. Is UPSC going to remove optional subjects from Civil Service (Mains) Examination 2013? If the answer is “No”, then in which year will UPSC remove optional subjects from the Civil Service (Mains) examination?
UPSC replied
You are informed that the RTI Act, 2005 neither envisage nor it is possible for the
PIO to predict the future course of action of the Public Authority. However, it is informed that a committee to review the existing structure of Civil Services (Main) Examination and suggest necessary changes has been constituted, under the chairmanship of Prof. Arun S. Nigavekar, Ex-Chairman, UGC and Committee is yet to submit its report.
Mrunal comments: ya, I knew you wouldn’t give an exact answer to this question, but didn’t hurt asking!
Question on CSAT answerkeys
3. Provide the official answer keys for CSAT 2011 and CSAT 2012 for following papers
i. General Studies (Paper I)
ii. Aptitude (Paper II)
UPSC replied
The answer keys of Paper-I and Paper-II in respect of Civil Services (Pre.) Exam.,
2012 cannot be provided as, the process is not yet complete and section 8(1)(j) is invoked. However, the Answer Keys of all four sets of CS(P) Exam., 2011 are enclosed.
Mrunal comments: but the envelope that I received contains no such answerkey of CSAT 2011.
That means another appeal against the PIO.
My Question: CSE 2011 Cutoffs at each stage
Provide the category wise cut-off marks for CSE 2011 for all three stages viz.
i. CSAT (Preliminary exam)
ii. Mains Exam
iii. Personal Interview
UPSC replied
The requisite information is an under :
Marks of last guy selected in CSAT-2011.
Out of 400 marks |
Marks of last guy selected for Interview
Out of 200 marks |
Total marks of last guy selected in Final merit list of CSE-2011
Out of 2300 marks |
|
General | 198 | 842 | 1090 |
OBC | 175 | 822 | 1059 |
SC | 165 | 807 | 1023 |
ST | 161 | 798 | 1009 |
PH-1 | 135 | 767 | 1008 |
PH-2 | 124 | 767 | 1047 |
PH-3 | 096 | 663 | 0911 |
Mrunal: and finally, here is the scanned copy of UPSC’s letter. See the following image
Information by U is impressive and helpful hope U will provide 2012 cutoff
hai………….you are doing an excellent job…
dear sir, Currently I am working as Asst Accounts Officer in Ministry of Defence ………Last time I appeared in Interview in Vijay Singh’s board…….when marksheet appeared at upsc website I couldnt make LOGIN …As it was showing that I made it before and password is at my mail id…….but I hadnt done such …..it was done by sum1 else b4 me ……how it happend i dnt knw yet? …..Thus I couldnt get my marksheet of CSM 2011…….Since I couldnt make in final list so I wasnt interested too that time……but now I am ……Can i get my marksheet from upsc …..I appeared in CSM2012 too..if I will ask in RTI ….will it be right step to ask such in these circumstances?
ofcourse you can ask for your marksheet under R.T.I.
because of this reservation in civil services many of my relatives have settled abroad.I think its the high time now upsc realizes these mistake and removes reservation from civil services,how can you expect someone with this caste attitude can be a better LAW or POLICY maker.I wanted to see a ‘RESERVATION FREE CSE ‘.If we really want to make our country much more developed than AMERICA,then we want our public servants to be free of CASTE AND RELIGION minded ideologues,and just concentrate on DEVELOPMENT
@Strive for Justice.. I am a general student and preparing for upsc, I have resigned from my job nd I am 26. I am scared but I am still studying with fun. Affirmative action is a truth which you have to accept. And Being/ not Being an IAS officer is not the mot cherished pedestal one should aspire for. The world is too big and it comes with many opportunities. It is better to find/ create them than beating this reservation bush. No offence..This forum is abt informations in a creative way and sometimes funny way. Lets not make it a TOI forum. I think many of my friends will agree here.
I agree with your thoughts Saurav but he is discussing about something big. Its not an individual article but for a variety of students who face problems, real problems. And whatever he says is logical enough. That would actually make sense if UPSC will reconsider their criteria for no. of chances/age when it comes to reserved students.
@S4J : Thank you for your valuable inputs.
TO
THE CHIEF OF ADMINSTRATION U.P.S.C NEW DELHI
SUBJECT- RECOGNIZATION OF B.TECH DEGREE ALLOW BY RAJASTHAN VIDYAPEETH ( DEEMED)
UNIVERSITY, PRATAP NAGAR,UDAIPUR- 313001, RAJASTHAN
DEAR SIR,
I HAVE PASSED B. TECH FROM ABOVE UNIVERSITY BY DISTANCE MODE.
THIS UNIVERSITY APPROVED BY U.G.C AND DEC.
I WANT TO APPEAR IN INDIAN ENGINEERS SERVICE CONDUCTED BY U.P.S.C
KINDLY CONFORM ME ABOVE DEGREE IS RECOGNIZED BY U.P.S.C AND
WE ALLOWED TO APPEAR OR NOR.
I SHALL BE HIGHLY OBLIGED FOR REPLY MY LETTER.
YOUR FAITH FULLY
SHAILESH KUMAR
EMAIL ID -kshailesh410@gmail.com
you’re eligible.
I do not think you are eligible…. as distance education is not in the policy of aicte.
Please reply Mrunal sir….
is the answer key to CS(P) available now with u? if yes can u share?
2011=yes https://mrunalmanage.wpcomstaging.com/2012/09/rti-csat-2011-keys.html
2012=No. because UPSC refuses to reveal under exam process is ‘over’.
Thanx
Mrunal Sir, it has been noticed that one of the proposed alternatives for upsc main exam is to have only one optional paper due to strong lobbying by universities for optionals at DoPT. It is being discussed to make the graduation or postgraduation subject as the only optional available to a candidate or a candidate may be allowed to choose from a group of similar optionals according to his or her academic background like science stream etc. Will you please discuss the viability of this proposal.
No dearth of rumors in Delhi’s market.
only way to confirm = either R.T.I (which UPSC doesn’t reply to) or UPSC’s official notification (Feb 2013).
There is still strong probability of pattern change as many are believing that it is too late for govt to change the pattern now.
@rajatjain1988: ABE OYE………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks :)
Dear mrunal sir,
i m graduate from DDE ANNAMALAI UNIVERSITY, TAMILNADU.
KYA MAI IAS KA EXAM DENE K LIYE ELEGIBLE HU. KINDLY RPLYY SIR
@Dilip, read this : https://mrunalmanage.wpcomstaging.com/2010/12/update-my-distant-education-degree-is.html
Sir,
about UPSC mains pattern I have a doubt that the decision is influenced by ‘Big Class Market’ in Delhi to its benefit. because in prelims they[UPSC] were totally get rid of optional and their is no legitimate ground to keep optional in main exam provided that the GS syllabus is all inclusive.
Can we file RTI or any other way to counter this change incorporated by UPSC in larger public interest as Class market are charging very large amount as fees. and a optional subject are not include very diversified streams of learning today many have to resort to classes because optional subject require knowledge of subject at graduation level.
Dear Murnal sir, why not upsc age count at the time of advertisement to similar other exams.
Its the law of KARMA ,u all are suffering from..,you all are paying the price what your ancestors have done in the past centuries to the lower castes ..just pay for it no arguments …this is called justice..
Dear Mrunal ji: I guide lot of students in Telangana, AP for civils. regularly follow your site..great work …heart felt thanks on behalf of all the aspirants community.
Qn:Statistics of Optional – Subject wise and year wise since 2010 data .. how about statistics of anthropology, pyschology..
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sir,upsc civil services ka final merit list aa chuki h.but sir isme ek hi no. pr 4 ya 5 rank bani hue h.jese kuch candidate ke ek jese no. hone ke bad bhi unhe alag alag rank di gae h sir ye kese possible h.jese 4 candidate ke no.(interview+main) 949 h or unhe marit m uper niche rakha h or esa bahut si jagah.to sir unko rank kese provide ki jaati h.jese IAS post ke lye general walo k liye 90 seats h.to general category ki marit list me 90 or 91 dono rank walo ke ek jese marks(951) h to sir ab sirvice allot karne m problem ni hogi.ab 90 rank wala ias banta h to 91 wale ko bhi banna chahiye.sir plg batao ye kese hota.rank provide kese ki jaati jab same no. aaye ho.
Dear mrunal
Greetings!!!!!
I am a strong admirer of your. You are requested to kindly clarify a doubt. My friend belongs to ST category and his D.O.B. is 09-10-1979. Can he appear in the UPSC exam of 2016.
Thanks