- The structure of SBI PO Exam 2013
- Reasoning: Topicwise breakup SBI papers
- Reasoning: SSC vs SBI
- Reasoning approach: Higher Level
- 3 Statement Syllogism
- Reasoning Approach: Usual topics
- Reasoning: Peripheral Topics
- How people dig their grave in Bank PO/Clerk exams?
- So, How to avoid your grave?
- Cutoffs of SBI PO 2011 Exam
The structure of SBI PO Exam 2013
Phase 1 (28.04.2013) |
MCQ (2hrs) |
GA+Marketing+Computer | 50 |
Data Interpretation (DI) | 50 | ||
Reasoning | 50 | ||
English grammar, vocab and Comprehension | 50 | ||
Descriptive (1 hr) |
Essay, précis, letter writing | 50 | |
Total | 250 | ||
Phase 2 | GDPI | Group Discussion (GD) | 20 |
Personal Interview (PI) | 30 | ||
Total | 50 | ||
Final |
|
Reasoning: Topicwise breakup SBI papers
2011 | 2010 | 2010(Asso.Banks) | ||
Reasoning Usual |
Coding-Decoding | 6 | 3 | 5 |
Direction based tests | 0 | 2 | 1 | |
Dictionary (Alphabet) test | 0 | 2 | 3 | |
Maths operations, inequalities | 3 | 6 | 6 | |
Sitting arrangement | 13 | 5 | 5 | |
Eligibility Test | 0 | 5 | 5 | |
Odd pair | 3 | 0 | 0 | |
Data Sufficiency | 5 | 0 | 0 | |
Input output | 3 | 0 | 0 | |
Misc. | 0 | 2 | 0 | |
Subtotal: Reasoning (Usual) | 33 | 25 | 25 | |
Reasoning High Level |
Fact-assumption-inference-conclusion | 2 | 7 | 10 |
Course of Action | 0 | 6 | 0 | |
Cause effect | 1 | 2 | 0 | |
Strong/weak argument | 3 | 0 | 5 | |
3 statement Syllogism | 6 | 5 | 5 | |
Subtotal: Reasoning (Higher level) | 12 | 20 | 20 | |
Non Verbal | non-verbal (image based) | 5 | 5 | 5 |
Total: Verbal Reasoning (usual+higher)+Non verbal | 50 | 50 | 50 |
- 2008’s SBI PO paper doesn’t follow this pattern of “High level reasoning” (or tougher data interpretation Qs like those of 2010’s papers). Hence 2008 is ignored from the analysis.
Reasoning: SSC vs SBI PO
SSC |
SBI PO |
Non verbal reasoning involves usual image-series+ paper-folding, mirror reflection test, dice/cubes. | paper-folding, mirror test, dice/cubes= not asked. |
2 statement syllogism x at most 2 questions. | 3 statement syllogism, minimum 5 questions. |
Lot of Qs. From Analogy, series, and odd pairs. | Hardly. |
Barely any question on higher level reasoning.(assumption, inference etc.) | Lots of. |
Anyways, let’s start.For the purpose of efficient preparation, I classify reasoning topics into two categories.
Core topics | Majority of the reasoning is asked from these topics. Often in a set of “5 Questions.” So Cost:Benefit ratio is quite good, if you master these topics. |
Chillar (peripheral) | Barely 2-3 questions from each topic. |
Observe this chart:
Reasoning approach: Higher Level
Based on the previous papers of SBI, we can see that higher level reasoning is made up of following topics
- Fact-assumption-inference-conclusion
- Course of Action
- Cause effect
- Strong/weak argument
- Three Statement Syllogism
- While both R.S.Agarwal and BS Sijwali’s books have covered these topics,
- but problem with both of those books= they merely give you a few solved exams and then give a big list of practice questions.
- But the basic concepts/ theory /underlying principles are not covered in depth.
- Then You often face the doubt “why option A is the answer and why not “B” option?” OR “why is this an inference and not an assumption?”
- So, for SBI PO’s higher level reasoning questions (assumption, inference, strong/weak argument etc), refer to “Analytical Reasoning by MK Pandey (BSC publication)“
- MK Pandey not only helps you for Higher level reasoning, but also for provides some speed-techniques for usual reasoning topics (such as input output, arrangement, eligibility test, coded inequalities etc.)
Anyways the study approach for Higher level Reasoning (for SBI PO) should be like following:
Higher Reasoning Topic | Chapter Number | |
MK Pandey | RS Agarwal | |
|
3 | 3 |
|
5 | 5, 6 |
|
4, 9 | 2 |
|
10 | 8 |
|
6 | 4 |
For example, pickup the topic “Assumptions”.
- First understand theory from MK Pandey’s Chapter #3, solve all sums given in MK Pandey.
- Then move to RS Agarwal’s Chapter #3 for extra practice. (or if you’ve BS Sijwali, go to Chapter #23).
To solve the last three categories of questions (Strengthen / Weaken arguments, cause-effect, course of action), you must know what’re the facts, assumptions, inferences and conclusions in the given statements. Therefore, preparation sequence should be: assumption topic–>inference–>strengthen / weaken arguments and so on…
3 Statement Syllogism
All cats are dogs…..
To master 3 statement syllogism, first you’ve to master the 2-statement.Understand the UPUN method explain in these two articles articles:
Then do all sums given in Chapter 11 of MK Pandey and finally Chapter 1 of RS Agarwal (under Logic portion).
Reasoning Approach: Usual topics
In Decreasing priority order. | Chapter Number | |
MK Pandey | RS Agarwal | |
|
12 | 18 |
|
17,18,19 | 13 |
|
20 | 6 (Puzzle Test) |
|
7 | 17 |
|
13 to 16 | 7 |
Eligibility Test
First you’re given a passage with conditions like,
“Applications are invited for xyz post. If candidate has graduation with 50% marks and 3 years work experience…. then forward letter to Deputy manager, else …. forward letter to….”
- Then five questions are given, each has a unique case like “If Rahul Gandhi has **% in graduation and ** years of work ex and….then what to do?”
- This is known as “eligibility test”- very commonly asked in BankPO exams. Advantage=If you get the question, it’s a set of 4-5 questions. (helps you clear sectional cutoff).
- Problem=can be time consuming, if not practiced @home.
- First understand the techniques and tips given in Chapter 12 of MK Pandey. Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 18 of RS Agarwal.
Math Operations+Inequality
They’re usually of three types
Type | Example |
|
+ means x, x means – and.. |
|
P@Q means “P is not smaller than Q” P%Q means “P is neither smaller not equal to Q” |
|
P#Q means P is brother of Q P^Q means P is sister of Q |
- Again, math operation questions are pretty common in BankPO exams
- Problem= you may get wrong answer or waste lot of time.=need maximum practice at home.
- Approach: All theory and all sums of Chapter 17,18,19 of MK Pandey.
- Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 18 of RS Agarwal.
Sitting arrangement
Can be of following types
- Circular table
- Rectangular table
- Blood relations (A is mother of B who is sister of C and…)
- Appointment (Arranging lectures from Mon. to Sat., name of professors vs subjects)
- Complex (Person, building floor, occupation etc.)
- Advantage=Minimum 1 set (=5 questions) always asked in BankPO exam. (=helps clearing the sectional cutoffs).
- Problem= can be “sitters” (=very time consuming), If not practiced @home.
- Approach: Understand the techniques explained in Chapter 20 of MK Pandey.
- Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 6 (Puzzle Test) of RS Agarwal.
Non verbal
- Usually five questions.
- Practice is “must”. Try to solve the question by eliminating the “unfit” cases first.
- Solve all the questions in RS Agarwal==> Non Verbal portion ==>Series, Analogy and Classification.
- You may ignore mirrors and paper folding, because usually they’re usually not asked in BankPO exams. (However they’re important for SSC-CGL exam).
Data Sufficiency (DS)
- It is very easy to make mistakes in these question.
- Theoretical part must be absolutely clear in your mind.
- So first clear the theory from Chapter 7 of MK Pandey. Practice all exercises.
- Then practice all sums given in Chapter 17 of RS Agarwal.
Input Output
- Chapter 13 to 16 of MK Pandey then practice Chapter 7 of RS Agarwal.
This ends the core topics. Now, Moving to the peripheral topics (i.e. “Chillar” topics).
Reasoning: Peripheral Topics
Peripheral Topics | Chap.# in RS Agarwal |
|
4 |
|
8 |
|
10 |
DBT: Direction Based Test
E.g. A man walks 1 km towards East and then he turns to South and walks for 5 kms. Then he………Now how far is he from the starting point?
This is a “no-excuse” topic. Practice all sums given in Chapter 8 of RS Agarwal.
Coding Decoding
Can be of two types
Words | Numbers |
Health is written as GSKZDG then North will be written as | 453945 means “decide” then 8978 means… |
Sometimes you’re given a “matrix table” and you’ve to decode the words accordingly. Do all the sums given in Chapter #4 of RS Agarwal.
Dictionary (Alphabet) tests
Chapter #10 of RS Agarwal.
Misc.
- Once ^all of above is done, get an overview of the misc. topics such as sequence, series, odd pair, dice, cubes, clocks, calendars, Venn Diagrams etc. from RS Agarwal’s/BS Sijwali’s book.
- This concludes the preparation of reasoning section for SBI PO.
- How to approach GA+Marking+Computer, explained in separate article: click me (with free study material for computer, IT, economy etc.)
How people dig their own graves in Bank PO/Clerk exams?
- They underestimate the level of competition.
- They buy the books, magazines, download PDF files from internet and so on. But they only “gather” material. They never “process” the gathered material.
- They just spend time in day dreaming and facebook, TV, SMS, PC/mobile games, cricket, loitering around etc.
- They start serious preparation only AFTER receiving the exam call letter.
- During the exam, they think, “ya ya ya the marketing and English section is “pappu” so I’m going to solve all questions here. And after that, I’ll go to maths and reasoning section.”
- They get stuck in lengthy calculations of Data interpretation (because they’ve never practiced multiplication and division @home). And often make silly mistakes in calculation =negative marking.
- They waste lots of minutes in sitting arrangement/eligibility test/non-verbal reasoning type questions.
Ultimately they cannot even cross the sectional cutoffs.( Getting in the final merit list is a far cry.)
So, How to avoid your grave?
- Maximum revision + Maximum practice @home.
- Mind will always find excuses (my cousin’s wedding, workload @office, I’m not in the mood….) but while you’re making those excuses, someone somewhere is busy reading books and doing sums.
- The train of success doesnot show mercy on anyone, no matter how good the excuse is, this train will not wait for you.
- So always remember Anil Kapoor from Tezaab: “time hotaa nahi hai, time nikaalnaa padtaa hai”. (There is no time as such, but you’ve to take out time (to study)).”
- Donot “HATE” reasoning. In fact, Syllogism, sitting arrangement, eligibility test etc. reasoning questions can be solved with maximum accuracy in short time (once you’ve mastered them). So don’t consider them your enemies, make them your weapons. They’ll be immensely helpful in scoring high marks.
- When you get the question paper, you don’t have to solve all questions in a continuous sequence i.e. Reasoning question from 1 to 50. Then English 1 to 50 then DI from 1 to 50…
- Instead, first try to tick minimum 10-15 in each section first, and then come back and solve remaining questions.
Cutoffs of SBI PO 2011 Exam
Phase 1: sectional cutoffs (2010, 11)
2011 | 2010 | |||||||
Phase 1 | Max marks | SC/ST/PWD | OBC | GEN | SC/ST/PWD | OBC | GEN | |
English Language | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 5 | 5 | 10 | |
General Awareness | 50 | 7 | 7 | 11 | 6 | 6 | 9 | |
DI | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 8 | |
Reasoning | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 8 | 8 | 12 | |
Descriptive | 50 | 18 | 18 | 20 | 18 | 18 | 20 |
Phase 1: Marks of last candidate
Now the marks scored by last candidate from Phase 1 to GDPI (Phase 2), in each category.
Phase 1(2011) | 250 |
SC/ST/PH | 88 |
OBC | 99 |
GEN | 110 |
Courtesy: Mr.csl80 of pagalguy forum, for providing the cut off data and other essential inputs regarding this exam.
sir,,,,,i’m a biology student,,,,,so i’m afraid of arithmatic….so pls tell me how to solve maths problems quickly…………..i’m so timid for that………..pls help me sir……………..
Rupa!
In modern competitive world you will have to be brave….
make a planned approach to learn Quantitative Aptitude.
no doubt, techno guy enjoy the advantages but I have seen worst in them too …
on the other hand I have taught student from Home Science background in my class and their performance have been considerable.
you should start with the articles here in this website(Thanks to Mrunal SIr) even I was benefited by his articles.
sir pleze tell me wich book is better for DI as per your knowledge
best book for DI is Arun Sharma.
Udit !
Undoubtedly it is best :)
nice
information
plz give a link to data interpretation study plan and enlish for sbi po or plz post on these topics no details can be found here about these topics
i’ve applied for sbi po 2014..this time they are conducting online test… so do we have choice of selecting which section to solve first. plz tel me hoe this online test process appears
please refer a book for solved papers of sbi po 2014
Nikhil,
you can have Arihant SBI PO practice sets
SBI PO 2014 admit cards are available for download
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very nice support to us.and your articles are much usefull to us.thank you.
one suggestion its better to provide these kind of articles for exams of govt companies like HAL,HSL,ONGC,STEEL PLANT
Good morning sir, this is dinesh kashyap who wants to ask question about SBI PO 2014 related , sir suggest me what numbers of question should attempt in each part with how many timings.
what strategy should apply to passed the descriptive exams
For a start, you should stop referring yourself in the third person.
Hi Guys,
Please can anyone tell me whether the following is the correct and accepted format for formal letter writing for SBI descriptive.
From:
Co. Name
Co. Address.
To,
Branch Manager
SBI
DATE: XXXX
SUBJECT: XXXXX
Respected Sir/Madam,
***************** BODY OF THE LETTER***************
Yours Truly
Mr. Xyz
Hi,
Kindly clear my doubt….
There doesn’t seem to be a separate section for quantitative aptitude in SBI PO exam’s syllabus.(we have this section in bank SO exam). Does this mean that there wont be any quants questions in the PO exam..?
No there is no seperate section for this, however they can ask you questions related to profit & loss, %, ratio & proportion etc in the Data interpretation (DI) i.e. in the graph.. so be prepared, the questions in yesterdays (15/06) set were a bit difficult especially DI& Reasoning sections.
Please note that Data interpretation involves variables to be plotted in bar,line pie etc….
it is obvious they do not need to ask such question separatly which involves calculation….BY asking question on DI they will judge your quantitative aptitude skill.
sir, kindly requested you please mention the success stories of bank po , their strategy, how they study,which book they prefer for each section and how they manage their time. so that aspirant get the ideas to crack po exams
Sir please post study plan of SBI bank cerk exam, and RRB po and clerk study plan….with satudy strategy……thank u sir for all ur guidence and current affair articles…….
thank u sir …. is logical reasoning useful for upsc
is there any percentage eligibility criteria like 60% for general class for sbi po for coming 2015 exam, i had talked to one of the sbi employee, he told me der no such criteria right now, i just want to confirm on the same, whosoever has reached interview or gd round, please share der expierience on whether they ask for any specific percentage range to get selected or not, i mean simple graduation is only the basic eligibility, right with no % drama?
Mrunal sir
Kindly update you site about SBI Po 2015 Pattern of Study and tips to crack the exam. According to new notification it has Prelims Mains and Interview.
sir give some suggestion regarding preparation without couching (at home). how can i prepare my self for examination bank PO
I just to know the techniques how to answers the questions correctly within the stipulate period of time
of my SBI PO Exam 2015.
With thanks.
For SBI PO Descriptive paper, would you kindly give some sample precis,letter writing and essay for preparatiion of
my SBI PO EXAM 2015.
Thanks.
sir
sir plz gudaince the sbi po exam discripitive paper
please send me online study material of sbi po
Anybody has attended training for SC/ST? Are they helpful ? pls reply.
I need complete systmaitic syllabus of sbi bank po plese help. Thank u
sir,plz upload the new phase of SBI, pattern…….Some MORE description
You stupid fellow rs aggarwal book is waste see ibps po 2014 sbi po 2015 question how they are asking question pattern no rs aggarwal no bs sijwal no mk pandey .one question is not getting from these books why are you cheating the children to buy those books. Even clerk range not enough for these books
Helo sir , I follow your suggestions and website . Please update sbi po , IBPS PO format as per 2015 pattern to crack the exam..PLease do it sir …We are waiting for your strategy sir please !!!!!!!!!
Respected sir, i am preparing for bank po but my english is weak so please tell me which book is best for prepration.
thanks for motivating aspirants like us .. at this time your information is acting like a torch in a room full with darkness …once again sir thank you sir..keep up the good work.
Sir, Please post some updated information, it’s almost 2016 and these info are too old to follow. I’m waiting for your response(* I’ve never waited for response from my girlfriend like this), so please reply.
Thankyou so much for this informal.
I was so confused for reason, but not now.