- The structure of SBI PO Exam 2013
- Reasoning: Topicwise breakup SBI papers
- Reasoning: SSC vs SBI
- Reasoning approach: Higher Level
- 3 Statement Syllogism
- Reasoning Approach: Usual topics
- Reasoning: Peripheral Topics
- How people dig their grave in Bank PO/Clerk exams?
- So, How to avoid your grave?
- Cutoffs of SBI PO 2011 Exam
The structure of SBI PO Exam 2013
Phase 1 (28.04.2013) |
MCQ (2hrs) |
GA+Marketing+Computer | 50 |
Data Interpretation (DI) | 50 | ||
Reasoning | 50 | ||
English grammar, vocab and Comprehension | 50 | ||
Descriptive (1 hr) |
Essay, précis, letter writing | 50 | |
Total | 250 | ||
Phase 2 | GDPI | Group Discussion (GD) | 20 |
Personal Interview (PI) | 30 | ||
Total | 50 | ||
Final |
|
Reasoning: Topicwise breakup SBI papers
2011 | 2010 | 2010(Asso.Banks) | ||
Reasoning Usual |
Coding-Decoding | 6 | 3 | 5 |
Direction based tests | 0 | 2 | 1 | |
Dictionary (Alphabet) test | 0 | 2 | 3 | |
Maths operations, inequalities | 3 | 6 | 6 | |
Sitting arrangement | 13 | 5 | 5 | |
Eligibility Test | 0 | 5 | 5 | |
Odd pair | 3 | 0 | 0 | |
Data Sufficiency | 5 | 0 | 0 | |
Input output | 3 | 0 | 0 | |
Misc. | 0 | 2 | 0 | |
Subtotal: Reasoning (Usual) | 33 | 25 | 25 | |
Reasoning High Level |
Fact-assumption-inference-conclusion | 2 | 7 | 10 |
Course of Action | 0 | 6 | 0 | |
Cause effect | 1 | 2 | 0 | |
Strong/weak argument | 3 | 0 | 5 | |
3 statement Syllogism | 6 | 5 | 5 | |
Subtotal: Reasoning (Higher level) | 12 | 20 | 20 | |
Non Verbal | non-verbal (image based) | 5 | 5 | 5 |
Total: Verbal Reasoning (usual+higher)+Non verbal | 50 | 50 | 50 |
- 2008’s SBI PO paper doesn’t follow this pattern of “High level reasoning” (or tougher data interpretation Qs like those of 2010’s papers). Hence 2008 is ignored from the analysis.
Reasoning: SSC vs SBI PO
SSC |
SBI PO |
Non verbal reasoning involves usual image-series+ paper-folding, mirror reflection test, dice/cubes. | paper-folding, mirror test, dice/cubes= not asked. |
2 statement syllogism x at most 2 questions. | 3 statement syllogism, minimum 5 questions. |
Lot of Qs. From Analogy, series, and odd pairs. | Hardly. |
Barely any question on higher level reasoning.(assumption, inference etc.) | Lots of. |
Anyways, let’s start.For the purpose of efficient preparation, I classify reasoning topics into two categories.
Core topics | Majority of the reasoning is asked from these topics. Often in a set of “5 Questions.” So Cost:Benefit ratio is quite good, if you master these topics. |
Chillar (peripheral) | Barely 2-3 questions from each topic. |
Observe this chart:
Reasoning approach: Higher Level
Based on the previous papers of SBI, we can see that higher level reasoning is made up of following topics
- Fact-assumption-inference-conclusion
- Course of Action
- Cause effect
- Strong/weak argument
- Three Statement Syllogism
- While both R.S.Agarwal and BS Sijwali’s books have covered these topics,
- but problem with both of those books= they merely give you a few solved exams and then give a big list of practice questions.
- But the basic concepts/ theory /underlying principles are not covered in depth.
- Then You often face the doubt “why option A is the answer and why not “B” option?” OR “why is this an inference and not an assumption?”
- So, for SBI PO’s higher level reasoning questions (assumption, inference, strong/weak argument etc), refer to “Analytical Reasoning by MK Pandey (BSC publication)“
- MK Pandey not only helps you for Higher level reasoning, but also for provides some speed-techniques for usual reasoning topics (such as input output, arrangement, eligibility test, coded inequalities etc.)
Anyways the study approach for Higher level Reasoning (for SBI PO) should be like following:
Higher Reasoning Topic | Chapter Number | |
MK Pandey | RS Agarwal | |
|
3 | 3 |
|
5 | 5, 6 |
|
4, 9 | 2 |
|
10 | 8 |
|
6 | 4 |
For example, pickup the topic “Assumptions”.
- First understand theory from MK Pandey’s Chapter #3, solve all sums given in MK Pandey.
- Then move to RS Agarwal’s Chapter #3 for extra practice. (or if you’ve BS Sijwali, go to Chapter #23).
To solve the last three categories of questions (Strengthen / Weaken arguments, cause-effect, course of action), you must know what’re the facts, assumptions, inferences and conclusions in the given statements. Therefore, preparation sequence should be: assumption topic–>inference–>strengthen / weaken arguments and so on…
3 Statement Syllogism
All cats are dogs…..
To master 3 statement syllogism, first you’ve to master the 2-statement.Understand the UPUN method explain in these two articles articles:
Then do all sums given in Chapter 11 of MK Pandey and finally Chapter 1 of RS Agarwal (under Logic portion).
Reasoning Approach: Usual topics
In Decreasing priority order. | Chapter Number | |
MK Pandey | RS Agarwal | |
|
12 | 18 |
|
17,18,19 | 13 |
|
20 | 6 (Puzzle Test) |
|
7 | 17 |
|
13 to 16 | 7 |
Eligibility Test
First you’re given a passage with conditions like,
“Applications are invited for xyz post. If candidate has graduation with 50% marks and 3 years work experience…. then forward letter to Deputy manager, else …. forward letter to….”
- Then five questions are given, each has a unique case like “If Rahul Gandhi has **% in graduation and ** years of work ex and….then what to do?”
- This is known as “eligibility test”- very commonly asked in BankPO exams. Advantage=If you get the question, it’s a set of 4-5 questions. (helps you clear sectional cutoff).
- Problem=can be time consuming, if not practiced @home.
- First understand the techniques and tips given in Chapter 12 of MK Pandey. Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 18 of RS Agarwal.
Math Operations+Inequality
They’re usually of three types
Type | Example |
|
+ means x, x means – and.. |
|
P@Q means “P is not smaller than Q” P%Q means “P is neither smaller not equal to Q” |
|
P#Q means P is brother of Q P^Q means P is sister of Q |
- Again, math operation questions are pretty common in BankPO exams
- Problem= you may get wrong answer or waste lot of time.=need maximum practice at home.
- Approach: All theory and all sums of Chapter 17,18,19 of MK Pandey.
- Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 18 of RS Agarwal.
Sitting arrangement
Can be of following types
- Circular table
- Rectangular table
- Blood relations (A is mother of B who is sister of C and…)
- Appointment (Arranging lectures from Mon. to Sat., name of professors vs subjects)
- Complex (Person, building floor, occupation etc.)
- Advantage=Minimum 1 set (=5 questions) always asked in BankPO exam. (=helps clearing the sectional cutoffs).
- Problem= can be “sitters” (=very time consuming), If not practiced @home.
- Approach: Understand the techniques explained in Chapter 20 of MK Pandey.
- Then practice all the sums given in Chapter 6 (Puzzle Test) of RS Agarwal.
Non verbal
- Usually five questions.
- Practice is “must”. Try to solve the question by eliminating the “unfit” cases first.
- Solve all the questions in RS Agarwal==> Non Verbal portion ==>Series, Analogy and Classification.
- You may ignore mirrors and paper folding, because usually they’re usually not asked in BankPO exams. (However they’re important for SSC-CGL exam).
Data Sufficiency (DS)
- It is very easy to make mistakes in these question.
- Theoretical part must be absolutely clear in your mind.
- So first clear the theory from Chapter 7 of MK Pandey. Practice all exercises.
- Then practice all sums given in Chapter 17 of RS Agarwal.
Input Output
- Chapter 13 to 16 of MK Pandey then practice Chapter 7 of RS Agarwal.
This ends the core topics. Now, Moving to the peripheral topics (i.e. “Chillar” topics).
Reasoning: Peripheral Topics
Peripheral Topics | Chap.# in RS Agarwal |
|
4 |
|
8 |
|
10 |
DBT: Direction Based Test
E.g. A man walks 1 km towards East and then he turns to South and walks for 5 kms. Then he………Now how far is he from the starting point?
This is a “no-excuse” topic. Practice all sums given in Chapter 8 of RS Agarwal.
Coding Decoding
Can be of two types
Words | Numbers |
Health is written as GSKZDG then North will be written as | 453945 means “decide” then 8978 means… |
Sometimes you’re given a “matrix table” and you’ve to decode the words accordingly. Do all the sums given in Chapter #4 of RS Agarwal.
Dictionary (Alphabet) tests
Chapter #10 of RS Agarwal.
Misc.
- Once ^all of above is done, get an overview of the misc. topics such as sequence, series, odd pair, dice, cubes, clocks, calendars, Venn Diagrams etc. from RS Agarwal’s/BS Sijwali’s book.
- This concludes the preparation of reasoning section for SBI PO.
- How to approach GA+Marking+Computer, explained in separate article: click me (with free study material for computer, IT, economy etc.)
How people dig their own graves in Bank PO/Clerk exams?
- They underestimate the level of competition.
- They buy the books, magazines, download PDF files from internet and so on. But they only “gather” material. They never “process” the gathered material.
- They just spend time in day dreaming and facebook, TV, SMS, PC/mobile games, cricket, loitering around etc.
- They start serious preparation only AFTER receiving the exam call letter.
- During the exam, they think, “ya ya ya the marketing and English section is “pappu” so I’m going to solve all questions here. And after that, I’ll go to maths and reasoning section.”
- They get stuck in lengthy calculations of Data interpretation (because they’ve never practiced multiplication and division @home). And often make silly mistakes in calculation =negative marking.
- They waste lots of minutes in sitting arrangement/eligibility test/non-verbal reasoning type questions.
Ultimately they cannot even cross the sectional cutoffs.( Getting in the final merit list is a far cry.)
So, How to avoid your grave?
- Maximum revision + Maximum practice @home.
- Mind will always find excuses (my cousin’s wedding, workload @office, I’m not in the mood….) but while you’re making those excuses, someone somewhere is busy reading books and doing sums.
- The train of success doesnot show mercy on anyone, no matter how good the excuse is, this train will not wait for you.
- So always remember Anil Kapoor from Tezaab: “time hotaa nahi hai, time nikaalnaa padtaa hai”. (There is no time as such, but you’ve to take out time (to study)).”
- Donot “HATE” reasoning. In fact, Syllogism, sitting arrangement, eligibility test etc. reasoning questions can be solved with maximum accuracy in short time (once you’ve mastered them). So don’t consider them your enemies, make them your weapons. They’ll be immensely helpful in scoring high marks.
- When you get the question paper, you don’t have to solve all questions in a continuous sequence i.e. Reasoning question from 1 to 50. Then English 1 to 50 then DI from 1 to 50…
- Instead, first try to tick minimum 10-15 in each section first, and then come back and solve remaining questions.
Cutoffs of SBI PO 2011 Exam
Phase 1: sectional cutoffs (2010, 11)
2011 | 2010 | |||||||
Phase 1 | Max marks | SC/ST/PWD | OBC | GEN | SC/ST/PWD | OBC | GEN | |
English Language | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 5 | 5 | 10 | |
General Awareness | 50 | 7 | 7 | 11 | 6 | 6 | 9 | |
DI | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 8 | |
Reasoning | 50 | 10 | 10 | 13 | 8 | 8 | 12 | |
Descriptive | 50 | 18 | 18 | 20 | 18 | 18 | 20 |
Phase 1: Marks of last candidate
Now the marks scored by last candidate from Phase 1 to GDPI (Phase 2), in each category.
Phase 1(2011) | 250 |
SC/ST/PH | 88 |
OBC | 99 |
GEN | 110 |
Courtesy: Mr.csl80 of pagalguy forum, for providing the cut off data and other essential inputs regarding this exam.
plz give suggested books for sbi po
plz give suggested book for sbi po DI
Hi Mrunal,
Thanks for this lucidly explained and highly informative post.
Thanks for or post
respected sir,please post how to aooroach DI and english for sbi po
your data & topic wise preparation ideas was awesome and I think it was really useful for those who prepare for govt exams newly they will get good approach & better preparation methods. I need this type of material and discussion about ENGINEERING SERVICES EXAM CONDUCTED BY UPSC
sir plz give guidance for the upcoming sbi po 2014 exam. thanks in advance.
Mrunal sir,
Can you pz upload the previous year question papers for sbi po
can u provide sbi final scor for interview call for 2013
sir maine graduation ka result nhi lia hai or mujhe ye nhi pta hai ki mjhe graduation mai exact kitna aya hai pr ye pta hai ki 62 ya 63% aya he , sir to mai eligible hoon ya koi age jake problem hoga plz reply sir.
sir plz meri help kro mjhe kuch vi samaj nhi aa rha hai ki kya kroon
sir mujhe graduation mai exact percentage nhi pta hai pr mai ye janta hoon ki 62 ya 63 % hai to sir mai eligible hoon ya nhi ya fir age jake problem honge plz raply sir…???
mark sheet nhi hai kya usme dekh lo simpleeeeeeeeee.
You r eligible
pls send me the useful information abt books for reasoning and quantitative aptitude..besides r.s. agrawal.
thanks
Good info
sir plz give some guidance on preparation for data analysis and interpretation part. thanks in advance.
sir plz tell about the study plan of Data Analysis&Interpretation and English Language (Grammar, Vocabulary, Comprehension etc.)
sir i really need your help…………………sir plz plz plz help me
you can refer Data interpretation by Arun Sharma.
Further on if you want to get more exposure on DI, kindly go for Career launcher Study material on data analysis.
The worked out examples and level of question of both book will assist you to sharpen your skill of time bound question solving.
can i knw if they are short cut techniques explained in DI arun sharma book
Very helpful for SBI PO exam..
This is very good information I have ever got about SBI PO.. Doing nice job.. Best luck Mrunal
Sir i am seeking my graduation from distance education. Am i eligible for sbi po exam? I somewhere came to know that candidates seeking graduation need not to apply.
Sir plz provide me arithmetic/maths problems tricks to solve quickly
Hi Mrunal
I am attempting the SBI PO 2014 exam for the 2nd time this year I think I lost out earlier due to time management also i feel i took lot of time in reasoning I also need to work on my general awareness. I am quite comfortable with concepts just need to brush up few areas of reasoning. I am planning to join test series of career power and focus more on giving tests rather than again going through all concepts. Kindly recommend me what kind of strategy i should follow considering just 2 months are left and I am working also so I can devote time early in the morning about 2 hrs. Kindly suggest what should be done to crack the exam
Sir,Please suggest me best book for SBI Po-Specially for Reasoning & Maths.
also tell me
For Maths and Reasoning R S Aggarwal will be Best For success. You will go through thistle book Insa Allah you will be succes. Best of Luck.
sir,plz tell me about the study plan of data analysis&interpretation and.. English Language .In DI I Take a lot of time to solve it. so ,plz guide me. ….
sir plz name send for po books
Hi sir
while filling my sbi po form i have filled my date of birth incorrect and submitted the form and payed the fees online ie the form submission is completed ( with wrong date of birth…..month and year are correct only date is mistyped) .I want to know sir what are options left for me , to fill form again ie 500 rs ka chuna or would it b possible that at time of document verification(only if i clear Phase 1) this issue can b sorted.Kindly rply sir.
send mail to registration_helpdesk@ibpsorg.org stating your dob mistake …..and see what they reply ….
Reasoning syllabus for sbi po
sir,
i am an b.tech in information technology.
in the form you are given four choices to be choose in graduation status.
my question to you is what option do i choose their ie science or other,
please reply as soon as possible.
thank you.
I find the info very helpful, but you’ve not mentioned anything about the descriptive english exam. Pls do
i wrongly filled my date of birth ..whatcan i do to correct it…. in sbi po form..
Sir,
To get the call letter for the Interview, one should score atleast 30 marks in each section for the general category. Is that True??
yes it is…
I am working in a nationalized bank and just completed 2 years. Will it be prudent to start as scale I again?
Just listen to what your heart says…Good Luck!
I am working in a nationalized bank and just completed 2 years. Will it be prudent to start as scale I again in SBI?