I’ve closed the comment system, because aspirants wasting too much time in debate, rather than studying.
UPSC has uploaded the halltickets for CSAT-2014. No change in exam date. It’s same 24th august 2014, Sunday. No change in exam structure- same two papers. No change in negative marking, same 33%.
Link: upsconline.nic.in/eadmitcard/admit_card.php
Many people getting server down error, so try it later.
Warning
- For entering date of birth while downloading admit card: select year first, then month and then date in the end..else it will not get selected.
- any discrepancy in name, parent’s name, photo then send mail to web-upsc@nic.in
- You’ve to tick OMR answers only in BLACK pen. Otherwise you paper will not will evaluated.
- I recommend you bring clipboard. Reason: Sarkaari colleges and highschools have benches have rough surface and holes. It’ll “injure” your OMR sheet while you’re marking answer in black pen.
- if you’ve applied twice, then Use HIGHER REGISTRATION number while downloading the hallticket.
- If your hallticket doesn’t have clear photo/signature, you will have to bring a photo identity proof viz. Adhar Card, Driving License, Passport, Voter I Card etc. and two passport size photographs one for each paper with an undertaking.
- Save your own hallticket PDF file in google drive. So there is no fear of misplacing/forgetting roll number.
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| General Studies (paper 1) | 9:30 AM to 11:30 AM |
| Aptitude (paper 2) | 2:30 PM to 4:30 PM |
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“Prelims prelims na hua Kejriwal ka janlokpal bill ho gaya, kabhi paas hi nahi hota”
may b upsc shud start learning frm up psc. Csat has comprehension frm eng nd hindi. Here also we can hv eng nd a regional language which can b askd at d time of registrtion.
How govt can govern upsc decisions?Govt really think about a sharp decline in regional language aspiratants.Both Rajnath and Modi come from rural background so certainly they will do some positive.Even if for main exam the paper should be checked by regional language person
Any candidate from Bangalore for UPSC/RBI Grade “B” exam?
Yes Im from Bangalore…having exam on 3rd August…now uncertainty over prelims, thinking to give that exam…where are you from
Hi I am not from Bangalore but working here, so filled my exam center as B’lore for RBI exam. Not really prepared much but I am wondering and I am wondering how it will like be as it is my first attempt for both RBI and UPSC. How about you? are you taking any classes and is this your first attempt too? If not then may be you can give me an overview on how much should one be prepared for final selection in RBI?
@sinhshi…it is also my first attempt in RBI exam…but have given UPSC exam last year, could not able to clear prelims…you can refer Mrunal sir’s articles regarding the exam…he has given full details about the exam, including what to read and what not to read…i have given SSC exam last week, so not preparing much for RBI exam…
HI Sinshi, where u r working? RBI first rounds will not be much tougher, U can easily make it with little efforts.
translation should b in regional languages too.csat should b there.
i m back with latest news.
No change in Mains date.
prelims will be on 28 Sept
No comprehension in Csat.
there will be option to choose between optional and csat for paper 2.
Re-filling of form will start from 16th august.
god bless all…..
Source- HT
can we change examination centre now?
please clarify.
I-am-back Avinash ji.. tk a u turn and return… don’t spread baseless rumors.. CSAT hataney ka matlab yeh nahin ki insaan baton se logic hei hata de..
..give t link to t source…. Its impossible to again go with optional…. No one gt time to prepare for it in 2 months
Csat jayega ya atleast english comprehension… Wahi option sabko lag raha hai…
Faltu ka conspiracy theory type news na do bhai…
u r right, better comprehension chala jaye aur uski jagah numericals ya logical reasoning ke questions aa jaye
Pls give the link
Bittuuuuuuuuuuuuu, kaun hai ye aadmi ?????????
anyway, dude why don’t you join Breaking News Reporter. Please post your number, seems you have too good resources at all levels or you are too vella for time pass or you are done with your syllabus but soon started liking your posts as you create a curiosity among others…..
You are just a rumor monger. Modi ka to cabinet v shapath k pehle nhi pata tha kisi ko…Aur internal decisions ko log pata kar rhe hain. Don’t spred rumors. Students, those who are anti-csat are spreading such rumors to keep the protestors on streets else they will go back to study room.
Seriously :: Pre postponed for 1 month, declared….. Now relax guyz but keep studying,,,
pls post ur comment only if it is true
mr ak hangal please for god sake dnt spread these types of rumours
bad at these stages
UP LOWER PCS result out……..
We must be the only country on the planet where candidates protest and want to decide how their aptitude for civil services should be tested!
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toi-editorials/upsc-and-csat-are-not-for-castaways-civil-services-must-pick-the-best/?utm_source=Popup&utm_medium=Old&utm_campaign=TOIHP
nice article…thanks for sharing
Civil servants have to have a deep understanding of problems, and that they should be ready for the toughest competition without complaints. Civil services, gives opprtunity to a student belonging from any social, economical, educational background to compete and work in future for people like themselves. I think it is an onus on IAS officers like ourselves ( when we become one that is.,) to ensure that , education in the districts (where they are posted) is of such level that students from there can one day aim to clear any number of examinations . People from engineering, management background and with elite english medium education have an upper hand. Though, I too think that instead of wasting time protesting students could have invested that time in preparing for the exam, and I also am not in favor of students demanding for the method in which they think they should be evaluated. but, it is a genuine problem, as the RTIs have shown, so if students are asking it to be addressed then what is wrong in it?
Absolutely they should do something about it. My points are-
1. On one hand UPSC, and every Govt deparment for that matter, including PSUs, stress on encouragement of Hindi, but bitter truth is intentionally or unintentionally they discourage it in thousand ways, not just CSAT.
The truth is Hindi has lost its relevance except in general life and yes idea exchange. I dont know in this globalized world how we’ll rebuild the lost glory of Hindi. sachchhai yeh hai ki IT mein ya MBA ya call center har jagah wahi aage badhte hain jinki english achchhi hai. Period. lekin hamaare govt n PSUs kehte hain kuch aur karte hain kuch.
Govt shud plainly ask- your english has to be good if you wanna become an IAS. They shud make all Govt schools to teach in English medium. No issues.
But yeh peeth mein chhura maarna ekdam galat baat hai. yeh double standard band hona chaahiye.
2. It’s a fact that prashashan ki yogyata english se nahin aati- nitish kumar n modi himself r gud examples. It’s also scientifically proved, many researches have been done on this globally.
3. As Vivekanand said- pakshpaat sabhi buraaiyon ki jad hai.
Exam shud b postponed coz these boys n galz hav lost their time protesting for a just cause. Weightage of CSAT II shud be reduced. And for God’s sake no verbatim translations. Better scrap comprehension. waise bhi mains mein english ka paper toh hai hi so pre mein iska kya sens?
Good luck everyone.
And now we will decide that how exam should be done :p GOD save upsc
CSAT 2014 WILL BE ON 24 AUG. WITH NO CHANGE.
DEMANDS WILL BE CONSIDER FOR CIVIL SERVICE 2015 ,
D P AGRRAWAL-JI IS CONSTITUTING HIGH LEVEL COMMITEE ON CSAT BIASEDNESS CHAIRED BY Former IIT professor Hem Chandra Gupta.
BE READY FOR “KATLA KI SUBHA”….KATLA TO HOKE RAHEGA….. good luck$
Bhai kaha se yeh bewakofo waali conspiracy theory de rahe hoo…..do u even know t the depth of this issue….yeh itna bawal agle saal kenliye ho raha hai kya..do u think ek aur commitee banake isko solve kerdoge…??.do u think student will wait for next year…..common sense bhi koi cheez hoti hai…usko to apply kero…..this issue is now out of UPSC discretion …its has become
a political issue …gov is in extreme pressure to put down this protest….exam postpone hoga(as per news sources) … Csat ka weightage kam hoga ya hatega ..ya kuch naya hoga yehi possible hai….
12 october is t next reserve date of UPSC ..it could be t most probable date for prelims if it happens (which looks quite certain now)..
lol
D.P.Agrawal ”JEE”
ha ha ha
High level Applesauce
“D P Agrwal Ji…” badi respect hai…. kya baat hai….
Jisne yeh sari gandh (read:: – bhasudi) usko itna samman…. dhanya ho aap
GOOD ur LOGIC is bad coz….
u need 2 know my real msg to my MSG….
My reply to Niraj “jinka apar prem prakat hota hain D.P. ke bare me”
Change ur Name as..”BEING GOOD”
jst chill yar!!
Sankalp… My response was to niraj as well… Messed up with reply button…. ;-)
kya nautanki ho rahi hai yaar,india me to dharna karna fashion ho gaya hai, koi dharna karke CM ban gaya ( aur 49 days me bhag gaya) kuch log soch rahe hai ki dy can justify there shortcomings by blaming it on the system, koi bataye unhe bhai dharna karne se IAS nahi banoge,padhne se banoge ,if people of ds calibre who wants to burn and destroy public property aims to become ias to ban ke kaunsa desh ka bhala karenge, and all ds debate over engg and management students coming in to bhai logon its just that due to last 5-8 surge in no. of engg and management colleges(har gali nukkad me khul gaye hain) its just that the number of students having a engg degree have gone up, nd yaar they are testing ur logic not english skills kisi convent ke bache ke liye bhi wo paper cake walk nahi hai just as kisi humanities ke student ke liye gs mains cake walk nahi hai, bhaiyon its a competitive exam (for god’s sake) where ur competing with many diverse and different aspirants sabki kuch strength hai kuch weekness, protest kyun iss tarah to indian cricket team ko bhi protest karna chahiye ki england aur australia green aur bouncy pitch pe match karwate hain.
dnt know kya hoga csat rahega ya nahi par competition hai yaar,kaisa bhi paper ho strength aur weekness to hogi hi, bank po, ssc,capf etc etc ….. in sab me bhi to yehi pattern hai still students from poor background are cracking it, and 500 students ke agitation pe exam ka pattern badal jaaye to pata nahi democracy ke naam pe hamara desh kaha ja raha hai
All indians who think that csat section to be scrapped r fools ……
If csat section is removed then tomorrow we must reserve ias ,ips posts for regional language rural aspirants ….then it will be level playing field …bec they cannot read English or do 10th level maths….this is the situation in bharat
dear mohib….aap to sabse pehle fail ho gaye pt mains ke baad personality test me ur nil..YAAD RAKHNA ias kabhi nahi ban paaoge rote gaate irs iaas type wo bhi not sure on ur this aptitude lack of empathy what u think 10 level math is everything…kabhi REAL INDIA GAYE HO…GAON VILLAGE …ek kaam karo google me kamra le lo tum aur google dono bahut intelligent ho lekin band kamro me hi rehne laayak ho dost…..wohi raho IAS IPS TOekdum bhool jaao
Vikas…1st of all talk some sense..you sound like a fool… what class 10th math is not everything?? If you dont know that minimum then hell with you being an ias..your aptitude will be equivalent with some street vendor or some cobler… try changing with time else if you are so proud of being in the past then you shoudnt come even close to an internet…try replying with a letter with the help of a pigeon maybe… and dont give that crap of visiting villages..i bet you havent visited one and goin on to brag about visiting villages..stevedore
ya,nd u r the most intelligent,divine, eternal soul born on this earth!!!! how cm a stupid humanity student cn compete wth u???? u r the next enlightened soul may b, kalki or maitreya buddha i suppose! height of the stupid comments!!!!
Will you bow to protests like these when you are an administrator? Arvind Verma Committee is being asked to produce the report in a week when 1 year was not enough. The committee mandate is only for english only comprehension basis. Will govt. decide on the protests or by some objective evaluation of the perceived bias? Think as an administrator.
Mrunal bhai…. EID MUBARAK..!!
Love & Respect 2 u
M totally agree with u sunny..the % of engg cracking civil services exam is increasing..every is just seeing the no.s but no one is giving his attention toward reason..and if he gives attention towards reason he found csat..but this is half truth..
Do u ever notice why engg turns towards this exam?? Because of no job opportunities after becoming engg..this is one of the “virasat” of last govt..evry every almost 10 lakh new engg are come in market..comparing with this figu. Job created are very very less..so naturally they tying new opportunities of job..and at the same time..the power and respect ias get also fascinating them..
You are partially right…..But people who clear Civil services are not those who are excess engineers in market or jobless people like me…
Most are IIT and NIT…..dosth…wat ever we argue..statistics speak
friend i m a kv student till 12th a engg graduate from a small town college i have neither studied in convent nor i have very good english, i know i m fighting with people from IIT,IIM NITs to should i not compete, and tell u frankly i m even scared of students from JNU,du because they know better history,geography,polity,economy then me, to mere jaisa aspirant jo dono taraf se average hai usse to paper dena hi nahi chahiye, but i have cleared prelims two times, and i will do it again and probably go all d way, aur agar nahi bhi hua to bhi ungliyaan dusro pe nahi khud ki preperation pe uthaunga
bro…..agreed….DU , JNU know better history polity etc………… just one question….. are they scoring more than 100 in paper 1?????
NO THEY ARE NOT…the average of those who cleared this year is 80…..WHEREAS IN APTI PEOPLE AVERAGE SCORE OF THOSE WHO CLEARED IS 160 +++..
THOSE WHO ARE MATURED ENOUGH WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT….
best of luck wit ur preparation bro….
If they cannot score then its their problem
yaa true and the seats of traditional humanities college like du,jnu and others have remained the same, so its just that no. of enng grads is increasing,
and one more thing, to all those MP’ s and nautanki CM (kejriwal) and PM 9rahul) wannabes pehle ye answer karo ki even after 66 years of our independence y our mps nd mla have not been able to open a decent english medium school in every village or district instead of supporting these students, kyun govt schools me aise teachers nahi hai jo achi english padha sake, aur sikhaya to govt schools me dharna dena, public property ko todna bhi nahi jaata par woh in so called students ko bahut achi tarah aata hai.
Bhavesh..yeah you are true..that is the case but try to analyse also that how many of those engg backgrnd really take an engg subject as his optional?? Infact how many engg students are there who arent preparing for upsc but try asking them basic class 8 gk…point is we as engg have to study the whole general studies from scratch and we still dont complain.. because we are bettr equipped for civil service
Good Morningzz all my brothers and their sisters, Leave it yaaron, UPSC apni baap h , wo kiski maarni h kiski nahi sab manage kar legi.
But I can bet one thing definitely , overall they are angry . ( As per xyz number of blogs of Senior IAS officers and news channel debats coverage ). I do not want to intervene with my personal views . Jo UPSC PAPA paper set karenge hum exam denge. JAI HO!!!
post the links of blogs please
Akhangal I too agree with your views
bhaiyo aap log apne close prejudice mentality se niklo ..see t issue as it is…I am a english medium but sill support it on pure logic and social justice…..most poor/rural guys dont make it into IIMs and top management college…any guess y ? .but they do Make into IIT….did they(rural guys) ever cried for Lowering t standard of IIT…..its abt english…this isnt our native language…many ppl can pass english paper but cant compete in a competition…bettr 1 will win…..y english as a criteria for winning……..its creating UNDUE advantage to some while biasing against othr…..i know ppl who have cracked prelims solely on csat paper 2 and hardly gt 300 marks in mains…lot of non srs candidate qlfy prelims on csat paper2…. Lets set everything aside….y cant upsc have different kind of civil service aptitude test (more importance to decision making)y have a CAT Type aptitude…..
Yes dude, i doubt you are a english medium guy, you are more of a hinglish medium , your language is pathetic to say the least.
bhai ronak if u see the past 60 yrs analysis to aise bhi bahut se students honge jo sirf optional subject which carried 300 marks, and gs 150, to sirf optional ke dum pe pre nikal rahe the jab sirf ye samjha jata tha ki history,polity aur geography optional waale hi ias ban sakte hai, wo bhi mains me jaake ache marka nahi score kar pata the,
its not abt who scores how much, the thing is UPSC has the authority to choose students its own way,usse kya test karna hai ya nahi ye uska decision hai,if some have a problem then unhe nahi dena chahiye, kal ko kuch ayenge kahenge private organisation me bhi reservation hona chahiye, english language is the global truth and we are living in a globalised world, and ths pattern is there in every competitive exam then y attack only upsc sare exams ka pattern yehi to hai, if some think ki csat ka paper kuch students ke liye easy hai then they should ask to make the paper more tough for everyone, ye chahte hai english hat jaaye, me chahunga hindi hat jaaye in our country there are so many laguages agar ek centralised paper banana hai to it has to be in enlish.
Well said sunny
Bhai…ekmbaat samjho…csat pe pehli issue thi “poor translation” jise both upsc and gov ne ignore kiya..”thn they said too much english comprehension ….now …its pro urban ,pro eng ,pro managemt hogaya hai..is choti si aag ko badhne ki liye chodne ka ya nateeza hai….abb kyunki yeh politicize hogaya hai….abb csat ko jaana hi hoga warna sab political party wont be happy…(last yr time jab english mains ka no judhne wala tha …even chote se protest per hi gov ne ye english ho hatwa diya n made it qlyfyn as earliar )…..now UPSC ki poor transaltion ki wajah se ppl now feel its biasing in favour of english guys… Every constitutional body is accountable y nt UPSC….WTF upsc doing wth translation…yaar csat ka weightage agar 50% kerdiya jaaye ..translation sudhar diya jaaye to max khush ho jayegi….wts so wrong in it……
@Raunak: If you don’t have statistics that how many rural guys make it into IIM then don’t comment like this. I am from IIM and many… I said MANY are from rural background. Its because they don’t crib about exam pattern or english but they do hard work to overcome the weakness and they do clear.
By the way I can connect you to the people who scored mere 13%ile in verbal (english) paper in CAT in 1st attempt but they make it to 100%ile after hard work and not by protesting.
IIT and IIM students r supposed 2 b in their respective fields,i said it especially 4 these bcz of being highly reputed institutes of india nd now if they wnt 2 b in civils they shud put in xtra efforts,not the humanities guys.nd u r saying 2 thm ki u wrk hrd???? civils hs always been like tht,just 2 cater xtra needs of these specialised graduates, upsc must not favour a biased attitude.for ssc,ibps,SBI,etc etc, sbme xtra efforts humanities wale kare,now u wnt ki civils k liye bhi xtra effort yhi kare??? why??? dnt b so selfish nd think about others as well.
yaa totally agreed its the hard work that matters and every aspirant we read atleast 2 books and ncert for each subject for gs, to if u think csat is easy y cant u read 1-2 books for english in a year(itna time to har aspirant hi deta hai) jo itne saalon se chala aa raha hai wohi chalta rahega to how will we grow, if guys who are protesting become DM of lets say saharanpur aur badaun, to kya bologe ki hindu muslim riot ya rape of dalit by uppercast saalon se chal raha hai y should i stop it jo ho raha hai hone do, because even if at that time u want to change situation to there would be many people opposing change…….
Its just beat any logic (actually that the whole issue) ppl say mains ka score low tha, isliye kyunki pattern change hua,kahaniyaan nahi likhi gayi pages nahi bhare gaye nd koi bhi nayi cheez aati hai to initial set back hote hain, and all who are sayin ki csat me 160+ easy hai to topper ka gs ka score bhi 120 hai usse se bhi compete kar lo.
Bhai, there are translations provided in Hindi also. And to say they are google translated is a myth. i tried many passages and all were entirely different from google translation in actual paper. The Hindi is tough though. These students have not mastered their Hindi as well as English students mastered their English as the later category were forced to do so, but former were never required to learn Hindi as a compulsion.
UPSC has done nothing wrong. Just check with original ques papers without believing on what is being circulated.
Dude.. you should be back in 1990 before LPG reforms were initiated…its not about prejudice…and about hindi?? Only those 9 middle and north states speak it.. what about south india and north east?? There is no unanimity inside the country only then how can you potray hindi as a national language.. see france china etc…there languages are recognised by both UN and USA…if hindi were to be recognised i would have supported your line of thinking
India that is Bharat has been divided on lines of caste, religion, region, language, political parties, and that was not enough that we are now divided because of civil services, which was meant to be all India services. All the fundamental rights are provided only to avoid parochialism and promote a sense of unity, but how it happen when we are giving preference to one’s own state as state cadre.
The problem is not in the exam system, rather it is in the education system where a graduate is unable to read and understand the course of a high school student. The government should take note of this, I can read write and speak very well my mother tongue, Hindi as well as English, and will learn the language if the state where I will be posted, and this is because I have understood the theory of Darwin, “Adapt or perish” and know it very well that I Am an INDIAN first……so instead of wasting time in agitation the aspirants should spend time in studying, otherwise we will remain divided forever.
Kuch bhi ho…..CSAT hamesha rahega…this is the right way to test aspirants. Hindi aspirants….bhaad mein jaao. Kissi ki aand mein khujli ?
The Union public service commission is becoming a master at the art of faux pas. The arrival of CSAT has proven to be a bone of contention for students of the vernacular medium and humanities. This was the one exam that had promise and gave them an assured avenue of social mobility. By making it a stomping ground of the MBA’s and engineers the last nail on the coffin has been hammered. It also reflects a societal change towards neo liberalism and the element of empathy and diversity is taken out of the administration. To run the civil services like a gigantic corporation should not be the avowed end, often the moffusil elements do a much better job than the well bred ones.
Considering all this it would be prudent to consider the Alagh committee recommendations that had proposed retaining the optional in the preliminary stages and not make it a caricature of a banking/CAT exam……..and what about engineers taking humanities optionals to better their scores…96% of india’s engineers ( so called) are third rate doofuses and should not be placed on a high pedestal….it is needed to clean the system by tinkering with the “problematic” portion not throw the baby along with the bathwater….an inoculative approach needed not an inundative one chaps..
and what about english of the tenth level…..such a bloody lie…..former and current bureaucrats are vouching for csat when they themselves are pass outs of the good old system…seething and searing hypocrisy…it is a must that a CSE aspirant be well versed in histroy,geogrpahy and the rest…he need not be a shakuntala devi to enter the service.on that note i conclude that yes this exam must provide scope for increased entry of the humnaities and rural chaps or else it is doom…
shakuntla devi is way higher than what upsc asks in csat… so don’t make such lofty comparisons just to make ur argument look more credible. the real issue was with poor translation and merely that should have been sorted out rather than making such a hue and cry about the whole paper II. those who say that removing csat would help the “genuine” candidates to get through are clearly maligning the talent of officers who got selected between 2011 and 2013 and also undermining the competence of UPSC by applying their self serving contorted Solomon’s wsidom that they falsely think to possess.
yaar no system is prefect no exam is, point ye bhi to hai y a issue about translation, whn u become a ias and get posted in any state other thn ur home to apke pass jo files ayenge na to translate hongi aur ya to english me hogi ya uss state ki language me, to how will the officer do his work, a person who is aspiring to become one of the best in the country agar itna adapt nahi kar sakta to ds raise doubts over one’s ability, ds exam is not about raising social status of people its being the best in the country aur if institutes like IIM nd IIT have the freedom to attract best of talent to y not UPSC
Sare bachhe, IIT aur IIM walon ke piche kyun pade hain. Csat unse ebain nahi ho jati he,2 yrs ya 4 yrs pehle unhone mehnat ki thi is liye abhi phal mil raha he,jo logprotest kar rahe hain, unhone na to tab mehnat ki thi na abhi! Angoor to khatte lagenge hi! IFS ban ne ka v aspirations rakhte hain, lekin 1 saal 2-3 ghante extra mehnat nahi kar sakte. Aap logon ko kya lagta he hum paida hote hi english bole the, humanties subjects nahi hoti thi humse isliye to science padhe, lekin aaj IAS ban ne ke liye duniya ka kou v subject tough nahi lagta, na history na polity na ethics. Jo graduation me padhaya jata he wo v padh liya, aap 10th level ka english ya maths nahi padh sakte???
@Rudra: The last line “not throw the baby along with the bathwater” reminds me of a great marketing prof of IIM. :) :)
@ Rudra… Nice Write up…. & a mature Content… 9/10 :- “-1” coz there is always a scope of improvement.. :)
the way you have elucidated….is evidence of your being a 3rd rate doofuse
@Rudra nice comments dear keep it up.
UPSC is not about bank/CAT exam.
and pray tell me about the IFos poor folks…forestry students from sirsi,ponnampet,coimbatore,dehradun are out because some genius thought “merging” the two exams would be a great idea…the kala committee wanted a cutoff for gs and general English in the old pattern not delisting it and make a fanciful merger..now we have engineers and others who just tick Ifos optional killing genuine aspirants and then also make it to the upsc list thus leaving a void and preventing deserving candidates…this time hardly 500 “ELIGIBLE” candidates wrote ifos mains…..great way to kill one more service..next bring indian economic and statistical service also under the ambit of prelims…let there be 4 rank lists with 80% common candidates and an eventually depleted allied services!!!
an era of don quixotes,sancho panzas has descended on us….run run and run and you ‘ll still be run down.
You should be a neta than an administrators. Bina Baat k baat kheechna achhi tarah aata hai. Social mobility? 1000 se v kam seats hain UPSC me and that assures social mobility? Samajh me aata v hai ki kya likhte ho? Alagh committe report ka hawala dete ho, UPSC me chutiye baithain hain jo unhone use accept nahi kiya? Aur dusri committee ko force karte ho ki 1 week me report de. Report kya dega wo, uska mandate bas english only comprehension se hai. Aur Rahi translation ki baat, to Hindi me translations to hai hi. And Mind it, they are NOT MECHANICAL, expert translators do them. Before anting google translate why don’t you translate them on google to check and verify? Do U think UPSC would be such dumb?
Nothing of the arguments proposed by Hindi med protesting people hold true for the senses of a sensible person in power who makes decisions on the basis of empirical facts and logical reasoning and not on the rhetoric and protests.
Govt. already knows this and hence buying time for parl session to end and do with cosmetic changes of removing english only comprehension and assuring better and simpler translations. And postponing exam by a week or two. That assurance would be enough.
In India, as democracy, everyone has the right to put forward his views. As far as C-SAT pattern is concerned it tests your level of English, communication skills and to some extent quick response/situational wisdom. As an officer you represent your country and you need to have such skills. So candidates , instead of fighting for the change in “CSE” with “government”, must fight with “themselves” to get their level raised. In-fact we have now have atleast 6 attempts.
If candidates have some sort of problem they should invest their time to strenghthen their weak-points rather wasting it in strikes and all creating hurdles for public. These are not the qualities which UPSC seeks in you.
yes yes.. csat postponed.. atleast i can revise my optional again n work on paper iv which i never touched…
every aspirant in support or against please read this…and then discuss karte hain
http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx?eid=31808&articlexml=Much-Ado-About-Nothing-29072014016037
Well analysed article. Thanks for sharing it.
he is topper of of cse-94
Very good article, although i didn’t want to indulge in these useless controversies but the author has rightly pointed that WHO ARE THE STUDENTS TO DECIDE WHAT THE EXAMINER SHOULD ASK AND SHOULDN’T.
and i am amazed at the timing of these protests, were they sleeping in earlier months….
Brilliant article by a great intellectual ias officer …
Every upsc exam has maths and english beyond class x…
why so much hue n cry about this only…i agree translations need lot of improvement ..apart from that..
protest for other upsc exams also…why not ssc and bank po too….
ya I think they were slept…just now they awaken…
Nice Article, reflects the minds of majority of Genuine aspirants.
The competence of people protesting is highly questionable. If you are a South Indian studying in ICSE/CBSC school, you don’t go to these boards protesting that you don’t wish to learn Hindi as it is highly biased and favors hind speaking lot. It is the requirement of the exam, the Onus is on you whether to learn or screw yourself. And we all did learn the national language in the spirit of competence.
Stop being a whuse and stop protesting.. by burning things up. Its a crime .. well Looks like they haven’t read “Fundamental Duties” in the Constitution of India (to safeguard public property). No honest aspirant would do that..
only 30-40 IFS are needed….first of all they can be selected after their training , suitable for this with a language test,…second those who clear the UPSC can be master in a language if 3-4 months training given, like one learn south indian languages if he gets south indian states as cadre…..english can be far easily learn in comparison to south indian languages
awesome article man…..i guess it’s a horrible situation where candidates decide in what aspects they want to get tested….. furthermore where’s their sense of equality in exams like the CAT?
mr.srivatsa might have accomplished all that…so what? good for him..but what about ordinary mortals like us….we need more “quiet” efficient bureaucrats who do their job diligently and honestly like mr.khemka or a harsha gupta and not pontificate to one and all about everything under the sun. “celebrity” babus must be told to “focus” on their job .this chap incidentally got a rap from the karnataka govt for openly espousing the cause of AAP while in office….our mr.dabbang/robin hood better leave office and start his preaching. many underachievers in academics with average resumes have excelled where the flashy ones deceived….the main issue is elimination of graft followed by sloth…a rasputin in the bureaucracy is worse than a everyday joe,atleast he doesn’t loot the treasury.
UPSC is not for ordinary mortals. rt.
I see some people posting here who are exactly the type of fools who should not be given a chance to formulate public policies. CSAT is a way to filter out these archaic useless brainless people out of the system.
1. Engineers take humanities paper to score, then its a crying shame that you cannot score even if you claim to be from humanities background
2. If 96% engineers are of no use and are of 3rd grade, you should be happy to compete with them. Why are you sobbing. Who are you to decide who should be given a chance to be a civil servant or not (UPSC does that, if i am not wrong)
3. You don’t understand the dignity of labor, that’s why cracking civil service seems the only thing in life to you. Someone who leaves his 2 million pay-check to join civils has worked with a lot of people, understands what it takes to manage or lead , what it takes to deliver on each and every occasion. He is a far far far better person than you can ever dream to be
4. History/Geography/Physics/Chemistry ….. …. …. everything can be learnt if you can read English and understand numbers and mathematical operators. And you can learn English and Maths without any effort if you have a brain that is analytic, can think structurally to arrive at the most logical conclusion. Its a shame that without testing the root we are hoping that fruits would be good
5. Civils is not an avenue for social mobility, its for people who will design and execute programs for social mobility
6. Its a shame that people are forgetting the real issue of ‘Hindi Translation’ and are discussing all irrelevant and illogical issues.
ye kaha likha hai …plz don’t be so much idealistic …you are nowhere who will decide of anybody’s future …
i m with u..kynki likhne me kya jata hai …i dont knw who is he but agar ye kuch kar sakta to pm bankar ya kuch banke kuch karta yaha article likhna bahut aasan hai….problem is that aaj kal har koi bhagwaan banna chahta hai……..
@ ditto Rudra……
The writer has left no stone unturned in defending the sublime civil services exam. But it is to maintain this high status of the exam that CSAT needs to be reformed. Currently questions asked in CSAT are nowhere of high quality. Even the comparison of aptitude,quantitative and logical questions asked in CSAT with the questions in mid level exams like bankpo,ssc etc. is laughable. The high percentage of paper 2 marks in the total leads to the clearance of non serious candidates, eliminating the serious ones. The rising cut off in prelims, abstaining from mains and single digit marks in mains point to huge influx of non serious candidates at prelim stage. The past year success and easy nature of paper from their point of view attracts the non serious candidates. This leads to huge loss of one year every time a serious candidate fails to clear because he is not as fast in doing some cleric level calculations.
The writer’s point that raising questions on UPSC is wrong, defeats the whole purpose of raising concern on somethin wrong. CSAT is seen as a 2nd class aptitude paper and it is this nature that we have to change. It should not be seen as an easy entrance gate by some people. There is a need to make it an exam testing the higher skill sets and based on command over language no matter what the language is. A person having command over any one language is good to go.
The writer has left no stone unturned in defending the sublime civil services exam. But it is to maintain this high status of the exam that CSAT needs to be reformed. Currently questions asked in CSAT are nowhere of high quality. Even the comparison of aptitude,quantitative and logical questions asked in CSAT with the questions in mid level exams like bankpo,ssc etc. is laughable. The high percentage of paper 2 marks in the total leads to the clearance of non serious candidates, eliminating the serious ones. The rising cut off in prelims, abstaining from mains and single digit marks in mains point to huge influx of non serious candidates at prelim stage. The past year success and easy nature of paper from their point of view attracts the non serious candidates. This leads to huge loss of one year every time a serious candidate fails to clear because he is not as fast in doing some cleric level calculations.
The writer’s point that raising questions on UPSC is wrong, defeats the whole purpose of raising concern on somethin wrong. CSAT is seen as a 2nd class aptitude paper and it is this nature that we have to change. It should not be seen as an easy entrance gate by some people. There is a need to make it an exam testing the higher skill sets and based on command over language no matter what the language is. A person having command over any one language is good to go.
I want to tell u all hindi speaking people ,humanity background and regional languages speakng people that i have also studied in english medium skuls nd coleges and rite nw me and my famly is livng in vilage. I suport u in this cause for change in csat paper !!! Its not a fair game and level playng field for you to !! But on the other hand u hve to adapt urself to the situatn nd environment nd show u r capable of absorbing the changes !!! U cant evrytym gve silly excuses for nt able to compete !! Make ur weaknes ur strength !!!
This is not about rural, urban, arts, science, engg..Given proper syllabus and time everybody will compete. But the number of changes since 2010 to 2013 has been so many that you read each year and they change. Lots of seniors are stuck in this chain of events for no fault of theirs. UPSC’s restructuring to select an able candidate who has decent gs, good apti and great expression skills seemed like a metamorphosis that expects a amphibian frog out of an aquatic tadpole! This isn’t easy for everyone; at least the tired workhorses. They want upsc to put up sluice and flood gates so they don’t get washed away in the new waters!
Ya i will try utmost to postpone exam
Dear sir /Mam
Y all of u r fighting with words?
A civil servant have to face unexpected challanges in daily routine and have to devise a solution.There will always be some obstacles and uncertainities everywhere.we should change our complaining attitude about everything. commettiee after commettiee (tarikh k bad tarikh)is may not be a better solution for any problem.l think there is need some modification in syllabus from ground level for both humanities or other medium of languages because questions asked in csat are not very hard core type.Any wise student can score good by some practice.However lets see what will happen.
If i have to qualufy
If i have to be an ias ,i will be an ias..
Accept every challange.
Guys pull up ur socks and ready for race..
All the best
Ban the so called engineers who find only the civil services to flaunt their high school level calculability. These are the people who stole away precious opportunities from others who could have gone on to become real inventors but fell behind these childish calculators. If you are an engineer, administration should be off limits, especially in the spirit of section 377 of IPC!
Keep fighting bitches! :D :P