Finally, UPSC has declared the result for CSAT-prelim-2013 (for both IAS and IFS). Earlier The result system was= you enter your roll number and the UPSC website would tell you whether you’ve passed or not. But this time, UPSC adopted the desi method (uploaded PDF file that contains big list of roll numbers)
I’m uploading the same PDF files on google docs (because UPSC server will become slow as hell for a few days). click on the following links:
- Result: IAS/IPS/Civil Service candidates: click me to see result (~15000 selected)
- Result: IFS candidates: click me to see result (~1000 selected)
- Forgot roll number?Click me but you’ll need registration id
@Those who didnât qualify
Try again next year with full strength, rectifying whatever shortcomings you had in your preparation. And if this was your last attempt, then my best wishes for all your future endeavors.
Back in 2010, a lady from Chennai committed suicide for failing in prelims, Even in CSE-2012 a guy from Banglore committed suicide. Please remember that setbacks and success will come but life is more precious than one exam, government job, girlfriend, boyfriend or (temporary) nagging of parents/relatives.
I take the liberty of copy pasting a few paragraphs from Mr.Tirumala’s blogspot:
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When I started (UPSC preparation), I always dreamt about what I would do once I am a civil servant. I failed the first time. Thatâs when things changed. Thereafter, I was more concerned about how to clear this exam than about what I would do once I become a civil servant. The question as to âwhyâ I wanted to be a civil servant was relegated to some back corner of my mind. It was the exam and it was me. Years rolled by. Until this happened. I was too old for this exam and out of attempts.
(So) I am back in industry. My career is progressing well. Biwi and baby are fine. Life has changed. Priorities have changed. And I am moving on.
The job, the workload, project deadlines, cafeteria, cubicle, bitching about the HR policies and the wait for the next weekend. Itâs all there. However, thereâs one difference. I had the courage to risk it all. I once did. I lost the bet. And I know that I have the courage to build my dreams once more. Brick by brick, I will build. I believe this is my takeaway from this exam, where I didnât, âqualifyâ…….I spent a lot of time wondering why I didnât make it to civil services. I thought I will carry the burden of this failure all my life and will never get over this….Thatâs not so. I moved on, (and) quite well to my own surprise, I must say. In retrospect it looks so stupid of me to even think that I failed. I now look back with a smile…It must have been fun while it lasted. I now work in the field of aerospace with one of the biggest aeroplane makers in world, and I am proud to be an engineer.
-Tirumala
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@Those who qualified in CSAT 2013
Congratulations. What next?= Youâll have to fill up a separate form for the mains examination known as DAF (Detailed application form)
It will be an online application form, you fill it up, take printout and post it to UPSC, New Delhi along with photocopies of necessary documents and fees.
| What? |
IAS/Civil Service |
IFS (Forest service) |
| UPSC will upload DAF form on | 20 August | 3 August |
| Last date to fill online DAF form | 10 Sept. | 20 August |
| last date to send printed DAF form to UPSC | 18 Sept. | 30 August |
| mains starts from | 1st December | 3rd October |
| hallticket and Mains time-table | 2-3 weeks before exam | 2-3 weeks before exam |
For any doubts call the helpline of UPSC: 011-23385271, 011-23098543 or 011-23381125
By the way, Result of Roll Nos.290376, 722998 and 783890 have been withheld on Court direction.
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Mrunal, I am getting around 228 – 238( from various keys), still didn’t cleared. Anyway, I am not sad. This is my first attempt without any coaching and done my studies based on your website. This result is a great learning lesson for me about the presence of “Silent Players”, who are working so hard. Being ousted from this race with a slight margin of mark is not discouraging me, it is giving courage and boost to study more, to focus more. Guys, take this result as positive. Work hard for next time. All the best.
guide me for gs
sir, my registration id is- 11316587932. plz check my roll no. and tell that whether i have cleared or not? in UPSC Prelims 2013 pls send my Roll No my mail ID
anybody from chandigarh/tricity? anyone with PubAd option?
I am from chandigarh.Earlier i had pub adm. and geog. but now decided to take geography.
may i know ur name??
@amit my name is Saurabh
Ok..well good luck with that mate! are u preparing for mains here in Chandigarh only or have you shifted to Delhi?
There are many people who will be eyeing only IFS ..but due to this system people who dont have faintest idea of zoology-Botany-forestry or any other optional of IFS, will b sitting for the exam.Serious guys for IFS will b denied a chance. What an irony! How can there b one single exam in prelims while there are limited optionals in one exam!! UPSC has lost its mind..seriously
The serious student for IFoS not shortlisted for IFoS main exam. So there is need some modification for IFoS exam or should be merged with IAS exam.
Guys,
I don’t understand the attitude here.Why people are this much sad about losing?Why do you think civil service is the only stuff that can make you prestigious?Its a wrong opinion.Look back, even if you have finished all of ya attempts,(I wrote my last exam last year, i am 32 now, with a loving wife,and kid, i won the mains but didn’t get the interview call)it is not the way to take it.See you have tried your best, and sometimes luck wouldn’t be on ya side.See it is not the end of the world.Store the same energy,enthusiasm and dreams for some other stuff, in which you may be having a passion ( I am a journalist btw, so i went back to my job, i studied for 4 years without any break as i was kind of addicted in this process, i was really sad too, come on its natural).I qualified to the interview twice, and imagine the pain after getting rejected ,eventhough you have staked everything.But it is life, you have to move on.If you are a real man or woman, who is brave,who is creative, you will never feel disheartened,It doesnt mean you are not talented if you didnt get selected, but your capabilities lay somewhere,not here..follow your destiny and be happy :)
All who passed congratulations.Study hard and you will get through.sure.best of luck
Real gutsy dialogues!!! Moved!!! My hearty wishes in your future endeavors sir.
Yes thats true. I hv interacted with a no. of students and i surprisingly found that they have scored good in the 1st paper even much more than the students who clear the pre. for example a student has expected 124 in 1st paper and 97 in 2nd paper and he is disqualified. but another students has expected 60 in 1st paper and 181 in 2nd paper and he is selected for the mains. so now imagine who is a better candidate for cse? who has balanced knowledge? that is the reason why the cut off marks of mains has been decreasing years after years since 2011. it will be better ,if there sld be a cut off mark in 1st paper which ll demand a minimum level of knowledge from a civil servant aspirant and those who qualify in the 1st paper , then there 2nd paper ll be evaluated and the selection in prelims will be based on the total of marks in both the papers. it ll be a balance approach to select genuine students and it will bring proper justice to the students who are seriously preparing for the civil services examination ,rather than those who just appear the preliminary on the basis of their intelligence only….like people preparing for CAT or such type of exam. are now in a hurry to appear the civil services exam. it is not bad but the flaw in the selection process of pre has someway pushed the serious candidates towards the back…
Dear Sir,
It is surprising that a senior person like you is repeatedly putting the same comments again.
Now, I am IIM Calcutta pass out.. 99.7%ile in CAT ..
I wrote the prelims without preparation.
GS-1 60 marks expected (majorly thanks to Economics questions). I do remember some science/social stuff from my schools.. so that helped a lot
GS-2 190+ marks ..
cleared.. this is my first attempt.. Friends, I want to clarify a few points here..
1. please dont call candidates like as being non-serious.. now i am planning to leave a job that pays me more than a lac per month to prepare for mains.. everyone is serious if they want to be irrespective of their background.
2. I can see that many have put their heart out in the preparations.. 3/4 interviews but got rejected.. that must mean that UPSC expects you to change your nature a bit.. its sad and horrifying but lets be practical .. objectively analyse what UPSC expects more , may be there we can find an answer.. I may get rejected over and over again in the future..
3. some friends are complaining about intelligence alone being a criteria or made out to be an unnecessarily important one… intelligence and quick decision making are obviously must.. but, to clear mains any IIM guy has to read a lot of GS, optional subjects, everything like all of you do.. so, no IIM guy to going to clear mains without acquiring knowledge like others..
4. intelligence, excelling under pressure and time constraints are very important qualities.. may be thats why UPSC brought in paper 2.. u can cant deny it ..
like all of you, I too have to put in a LOT OF work for mains.. I hope to do that.. UPSC is not going to hand me a seat based on english/maths skills .. it is just one factor in the prelims..
Thanks,
All the best to all of you.
@Kartik-âbut, to clear mains any IIM guy has to read a lot of GSâ you r right, so do others-which has always been the case, and mind you GS is fluid and dynamic,but to clear pre,well you can crack CSAT-2 like hell in 1 week prep, like you said 190+. where is the balance. And what explains lower cutoffs in mains-it has something to do with higher or rather disproportnate prelims. nobody is doubting your seriousness..there is something called diversityâŚright now it is tending towards monoculture.You actually confirm the nightmare of hindi medium and arts students.
The paper 2 is not some illogical thing, but rather the most sensible thing, it is known as an aptitude paper. Aptitude papers are used by the best management institutes across the world be it CAT or GMAT. When a person becomes an IAS or IFS officer he has a big role of management under him and a person with good aptitude is required. So stop posting the same thing again and again and be happy that UPSC is getting on a process that is much more scientific and leaving behind the archaic method used for years. In mains the Ethics paper is also a welcome addition. Hopefully UPSC will keep improving and make the method more scientific.
As for you case the person who got 97 in paper 2, is of low Aptitude and would be a burden on services if he reached based on old method (Paper 1 alone). And if you see most the people who have qualified have the min in Paper 1 as 80 and around 160 in Paper 2. 160 in Paper is the most basic aptitude you can expect from a person. If a person makes 100 in Paper 1 (Very Good) then not getting 140 in paper 2, he or she would be himself to blame.
For me yes I cleared the exam getting 90 and 170 and I never practiced for Paper 2 even once.
expected score of 250-254.gen category.Not cleared.
i used to think that civil services is mainly about GS (wide knowledge and patience).but it seems one must also prepare for cat and other mba exams now to clear prelims.maybe the correct strategy is to focus on aptitude for 4-5 months minimum and think of it as the main area as GS is being treated like the lesser important one.
I have been preparing since 2011 (app 2 years).Optional Paper was ready .But unfortunately I could not clear Prelim :( Ab Ghar walo ne paise bhejne se manna kar diya he :(Soch raha hu ki Call Center Join kar lu ,,,,,,,,I was Expecting 245-250 acc to Vajiram Key .Ab to padhne ka Mann bhi nhi kar raha …Suicide kar lu to achha hoga :(
Yaar sab karna bas suicide nahi…aaj tak yahaan koi post nahi kiya hai…baat achchi nahi lagii…bahut si aur cheezein hain badhne k liye zindagi mein…dost yahaan Central PSU ki naukri chuck kar di hai UPSC k liye, next year apear karna hai, nahi hoga to mar thode jaaunga….
@ anuj,
yahan tumse buri condition mein hazaaron hain but sb fight karte hain . tumhari to koi problem hi nahi . money,no support from parents, 2 yrs, hopelessness, may be a love angle also…..ye sab chalta rehta hai…thoda time do apne aap ko..aur parents ko bhi….i tell u ur parents are nt against you but they want u to be secured by all means and happy..jo job kerna chahte ho kero..call centre ya anything…try to become financially independent so that you become emotionally independent also aur fir plan kerna apni life sochker ki what u want and what u cn do….life ko control nahi ker sakte ho mere dost…u cn do just ur bit….
courage hi life hai….weakness death–really
i’m saying all this because i hv been through this myself and like 99% of other UPSC aspirants…yahan to bohot se log 4-5 yrs ke baad bhi himmat nahi harte…
tum to ..only 2 yrs…
time do apne aap ko..bas aur kuch nahi
Hi Guys,
Lots of useful and insightful comments and lively discussion here. I created a page in facebook to continue the discussion and have similar ones in future. Join if you will and let’s start the ball rolling for Prelims 2014 and Mains 2013:
https://www.facebook.com/upsciasprep
Good luck to everyone,
Satya
UPSC should abandon their examination and go on placement spree in IITs, IIMs, and South India…!!!
All the hindi belt states should withdraw their recruitment through UPSC because of internal colonialism and imperialism.
what type of screening process upsc is following in which potential candidates are screened out and non potentials are in.I know many of the students who qualified for prelims have decided not to fill up mains form just because they dont know what is upsc mains all about and they appear just for fun. They cleared their prelims just on the basis of csat as they were preparing for banks and ssc exams.Most of the serious candidates who are preparing and had given years and years for upsc are gradually becoming out of race.The result is very visible as now student can get interview call in just 600 to 700 marks initially it used to be 1000.UPSC has deteiorated its standard..UPSC must take note of this..
Thank you so much friends…i read lots of positive things..which encouraged me a lot..but still a kind of fear inside me..WHAT IF I COULDN’T MAKE NEXT TIME EVEN PRELIMS??? Should i prepare for other exams? I am doing my MA in sociology..and thinking clear NET/JRF exams but for it i must have a 55% marks..and i am doing it from IGNOU..and lots of people told me that it is very very difficult to have even 50% marks from IGNOU..is that true? plzzzz help me if someone of you have and idea to get atleast these bogus 55% marks from IGNOU..you have know idea how i am depressed this time by not clearing my second attempt in upsc..agar ye 55% marks bi nahi agye to it won’t be worth living…plzzzz give me some ideas..
Now, I am IIM Calcutta pass out.. 99.7%ile in CAT ..
I wrote the prelims without preparation.
GS-1 60 marks expected (majorly thanks to Economics questions). I do remember some science/social stuff from my schools.. so that helped a lot
GS-2 190+ marks ..
cleared.. this is my first attempt.. Friends, I want to clarify a few points here..
1. please dont call candidates like as being non-serious.. now i am planning to leave a job that pays me more than a lac per month to prepare for mains.. everyone is serious if they want to be irrespective of their background.
2. I can see that many have put their heart out in the preparations.. 3/4 interviews but got rejected.. that must mean that UPSC expects you to change your nature a bit.. its sad and horrifying but lets be practical .. objectively analyse what UPSC expects more , may be there we can find an answer.. I may get rejected over and over again in the future..
3. some friends are complaining about intelligence alone being a criteria or made out to be an unnecessarily important one⌠intelligence and quick decision making are obviously must.. but, to clear mains any IIM guy has to read a lot of GS, optional subjects, everything like all of you do.. so, no IIM guy to going to clear mains without acquiring knowledge like others..
4. intelligence, excelling under pressure and time constraints are very important qualities.. may be thats why UPSC brought in paper 2.. u can cant deny it ..
like all of you, I too have to put in a LOT OF work for mains.. I hope to do that.. UPSC is not going to hand me a seat based on english/maths skills .. it is just one factor in the prelims..
Thanks,
All the best to all of you.
@Kartik-“but, to clear mains any IIM guy has to read a lot of GS” you r right, so do others-which has always been the case, and mind you GS is fluid and dynamic,but to clear pre,well you can crack CSAT-2 like hell in 1 week prep, like you said 190+. where is the balance. And what explains lower cutoffs in mains-it has something to do with higher or rather disproportnate prelims. nobody is doubting your seriousness..there is something called diversity…right now it is tending towards monoculture.You actually confirm the nightmare of hindi medium and arts students.
I have following points to make.
1. New prelims patterns have definitely allowed the so called ” non-serious ” candidate (which means they appeared in the exam before pre planning of IAS) and other who were busy in Mains before prelims cud not make it. So when the candidate with only CSAT knowledge enters for mains they are not able analyse and reproduce the answer due to lack of intensive reading. This lead to lowering of cutt-off in mains. Now positive side, the candidate who has average knowlegde of both Prelims and Main gets top ranks.
2. If the prelims pattern (prior to 2011) wudnt have changed I bet only very serious (referred as who read mains before prelims because they know what happens in mains as it is not time pass) candidate would have been selected.
Well said..valid points
i agree with zodiac. if it wants to be fair, UPSC has to have 2 general studies paper with say 20-25 marks of aptitude/English (all iim’s can prove their skill there) but it should not be allowed to be a deciding factor. at least they should have sectional cut-off and reject people who gets around 60 in GS !!! jeez where is this exam headed?
and ppl who are very good “only” at maths/eng can go work for some foreign banks and contribute their life inventing derivatives and creating global melt down
i think its unfair to rural people and ifs selection is an outrage-damn!!! more rural ppl should come as they know the real problems, something thats not related to slow internet connection and facebook is down for a day
P.S i also graduated from a very good school and i find paper 2 incredibly easy and in extension an insult (compare 2009 GS to 2013 GS paper) to the “mother of all exams”
@Yadav and Sky,
I do agree. UPSC should consider it and make some changes to remove URBAN BIASED(English Medium) pattern. One of the soln–> to PAPER-I AND PAPER-II each 100 questions and PAPER-I problems 3 marks and PAPER-II problems 1 marks.
Why on earth every competition has to have so called ‘aptitude’ in terms of maths and reasoning. Bank, Railway, SSC, State PSCs, PSEs, CAT and now UPSC. Why every exam has to be biased and skewed in favor of such aptitude. I am not against this arrangement but it can be given a more just and fair treatment by reducing the weightage, reducing the no. of questions or adding some more subject specific stuff in the CSAT. First of all weightage should be reduced. It should be 1 in place of 1.2 & 50 questions in all from quant, english and reasoning. Second, they should reinstate optional subject in CSAT paper by giving 50 questions (and that too, tough like hell) from the chosen subject. It sounds a fairer arrangement to me.
@Yadav,
Y dont u ask Akhilesh for a job?
If you plan to become IAS then as an IAS, or any bureaucrat for that matter, you will be required to quickly digest information and infer an approach to the problem. If you look at the pattern then about 50(about 60%) questions constitute your CSAT exam. So before complaining foul-play, at least corroborate your stand point with hard-evidence. If you feel your english aint good then go for hindi but if you cannot do either than sit home and hope Akhilesh can do something for you.
this csat is making things difficult for rural candidates….earlier before 2010 i was seeing this upsc question paper in the hands of many people in my village…..but now in my entire village im only the guy trying for upsc exam…….at least upsc should keep sectional cutoff….otherwise in future the rural students participation wil become almost nill
They did try to experiment with the Sectional Cut-offs but unfortunately even after keeping the score at about 60 in Paper 1 they were not getting requisite amount of candidates. Yes, the astronomical rise(about 15%) over last year did left them bewildered too. So hopefully you will see some changes next year :)
@ Neena…
I was expecting this surname=Akhilesh shit from someone and…..oh lady it had to be you !! First thing first, it should be ‘either then sit’ and not ‘than’. Feeling jerked in ur mind na !! but i know its just a typograpic error.my apologies for highlighting that. just for fun….hahahaha. u r an intelligent girl, as u seem…..we all know that. a very intelligent girl who must have cleared UPSC pre-2013 and thus overjoyed with the self accoutured devine right to pulverize everyone on the web in whatever manner she deems fit on whatever forum she likes. Taken. Accepted. Hail you.Period.
But now the bigger question. Why people like you with High IQ (yeah i mean it) fail to get a sense of the surrounding, of the culture , of the company and the sanctity of the forum while ‘quickly digesting information and infer an approach to the problem’. y u had to refer to my surname. What did you think while advising me to ask Akhilesh for a job.That its some facebook page and a caste based filthy remark will earn you kudos from the peers. Grow up kiddo. Its ‘mrunal.org’ a place of worship for a messiah called mrunal and a temple of wisdom for people like me and thousands others. At the fag end of ur robust IQ there must be a threadbare strand of EQ. Y u forgot to use that….or u r just not habitual of using that because ur IQ has been seeing u through in most of the exams. Y could u not analyse the milieu of the situation. where was ur wisdom. Where was that soft, not so analytical, a more emotional part of ur brain which could have suggested u not to indulge in such filthy affair when the agenda is completely contrary to this and warrants some social sense. i think wisdom goes beyond any information which u love digesting and regurgitating.Had u been on facebook……u would have had it from me lady. But for this place my adrinalin would be the biggest polluter. I bow to Mrunal and accept ur undignified personal remarks.Pity you!! Hope UPSC design some test to examine something more important called E.Q and S.Q.hehehehe.kidding
Mrunal, i apologise on behalf of this lovely lady for bringing such immature topic on this forum. I am really sorry. And my apologies to every other member of this great community. I hope everybody agrees on this. Do we guys ? yes, i reckon.
I hope u dont make the same mistake while speaking in U.N. with ur super I.Q. brain. i want u to achive ur dreams wud request u to be a little careful.sometimes things are sensitive…and that must be factored in at the cost of logic and rationality. Nothing against you. u r like my elder or younger sister and i wud love to see u make a mark as a civil servant. but a pinch of advice sometimes do a lot.
I am sorry for being rude to my sister but u started it sis.
And plz dont begin with finding faults in my english. My education has been in hindi medium. i know i have made zillions of mistakes. Alas !! ;-)
Abhishek, did u really study in Hindi medium? I am amazed. There are a few mistakes here and there but I would say the quality is definitely pretty good. U must have found it difficult when u started out initially. Can u please tell me what u did to improve ur language skills. I reason I am asking is because there are many who can actually benefit from ur advice. Kudos dude!
I fight with Neenas…………hahahaha
Yeah. My education has been in जŕĽŕ¤ŚŕĽŕ¤§ चिŕ¤ŕ¤ŚŕĽ ऎञधŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤Ž
And that too in perfectly gaav ka dehaati school. Ped ke neeche, zameen pe baith ke types.hahahaha
And i know the errors yaar. I don’t mean that i can become error free but there were some of them which i deliberately ignored. Kaun jaye itna andar ghus edit kerne. ladaai hi to kerni thi, kaun sa maine somalia ka constitution frame kerna tha… ;-)
Well I don’t think my English is that great but yeah i have worked a lot on it. Actually its quite a long story which goes equally long back in time. Don’t know whether I should share the same here. But thanks buddy…..thanks you read at least. Neena toh could not last the silly crap :-(…
Definitely,the new pattern is skewed in favour of those who are strong in reasoning and english.So,it favours engineers and MBA aspirants.But,wasn`t the old pattern of prelims tilted towards candidates having humanity background?
But,we will have to foresee the changing expectations from a 21st century bureaucrat who will have to adapt a dynamic approach towards any problem and this csat is a small step towards that demand.we are living in an era of financial globalization and bureaucrats will also have to be apt at upcoming new challenges.
And I will never understand why and how people qualify upsc pre having such caste biasness?Will she ever serve as a good public servant??Never.she will merely be a cog in the wheel.So,if a yadav or paswan will come to her for help,she will have that ego to talk to them.She will always think that she is a ruler and not a public servant.Sad for both abhisek and neena!!for abhisek bcz he cud nt qualify pre despite hvng such a good command on english and may be on other subjects and sad for neena why she qualified ias pre!!She will do nothng for society or deprived section bcz c doesnt really understand us.
@ Rakesh
ऌŕĽŕ¤¸ŕĽŕ¤¤ , एञत यच नचŕĽŕ¤ चŕĽ. ऎŕĽŕ¤°ŕ¤ž ािरŕĽŕ¤§ न नŕĽŕ¤¨ŕ¤ž स༠च༠नञ सŕĽ-सŕĽŕ¤ सŕĽ. ऎŕĽŕ¤°ŕĽ नŕ¤ŕ¤źŕ¤° ऎŕĽŕ¤ न नŕĽŕ¤¨ŕ¤ž पŕĽŕ¤°ŕĽ तरच स༠ŕ¤ŕ¤˛ŕ¤¤ चŕĽŕ¤ न च༠चऎञरञ पŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤žŕ¤°ŕ¤ž सŕĽ-सŕĽŕ¤. सऎसŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤ž ŕ¤ŕ¤¸ŕ¤¸ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕ¤šŕĽ ऌŕĽŕ¤° च༅…
ŕ¤ŕ¤° यच ऎŕĽŕ¤ŚŕĽŕ¤Śŕ¤ž त༠एिलŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤˛ नचŕĽŕ¤ च༠ŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤¨ ऍŕĽŕ¤˛ चŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤° ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤¨ पञस. ŕ¤ŕ¤ŕ¤Śŕ¤Ž नचŕĽŕ¤
य༠ऎŕĽŕ¤˛ŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤ž ŕ¤ŕ¤żŕ¤¸ ऌिजञ ऎŕĽŕ¤ रचञ चŕĽ. एञत ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤Ąŕ¤°-सŕĽŕ¤¨ŕĽŕ¤¸ŕ¤żŕ¤¤ŕ¤žŕ¤ŕ¤¸ŕĽŕ¤śŕ¤¨ , सञऎञŕ¤ŕ¤żŕ¤ नŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤žŕ¤Ż ŕ¤ŕĽ सऎठŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕ¤°ŕ¤¤ŕĽ चŕĽŕ¤, रŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤ŕ¤žŕ¤° ऌŕĽŕ¤¨ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽ लिठपरŕĽŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ˇŕ¤žŕ¤ŕ¤ ऎŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤° ऌŕĽŕ¤¤ŕĽ चŕĽŕ¤ aptitude, ाच ŕ¤ŕĽ ༧.༨ ŕ¤ŕĽ ाŕĽŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ ऎŕĽŕ¤, ŕ¤ŕ¤° ाच ŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤ŽŕĽ , ŕ¤ŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽ धऎञŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤Śŕ¤žŕ¤° ािऌŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤žŕ¤°ŕĽŕ¤Ľŕ¤żŕ¤ŻŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕĽ सञ़ ….
༧༨ ाŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕĽ एञऌ लŕĽŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽ रŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤ŕ¤žŕ¤° ŕ¤ŕ¤žŕ¤šŕ¤żŕ¤, त༠ा༠ŕ¤ŕ¤˛ŕ¤ž सञऎञŕ¤ŕ¤żŕ¤ नŕĽŕ¤Żŕ¤žŕ¤Ż ŕ¤ŕ¤° ŕ¤ŕ¤¤ŕ¤żŕ¤šŕ¤žŕ¤¸ सŕ¤ŕ¤¸ŕĽŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤¤ŕ¤ż पढट༠च༠ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ŻŕĽŕ¤ .ŕ¤ŕ¤¸ŕ¤ŽŕĽ ऎन लŕ¤ŕ¤žŕ¤ च༠ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ŻŕĽŕ¤ . नचŕĽŕ¤ पढटŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤ž ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕĽ, न सऎŕ¤ŕ¤¨ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤śŕ¤żŕ¤ś ŕ¤ŕ¤°ŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤ž. ŕ¤ŕ¤Łŕ¤żŕ¤¤ पढ༠ŕ¤ŕ¤° एन ŕ¤ŕ¤žŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕ¤ŕ¤ŕ¤żŕ¤¨ŕ¤żŕ¤Żŕ¤° स༠लŕĽŕ¤ŕ¤° ŕ¤ŕ¤.ŕ¤.ŕ¤ŕ¤¸. तअ….ŕ¤ŕ¤° ŕ¤ŕ¤¨ŕ¤ŕĽ एŕĽŕ¤ ऎŕĽŕ¤ ŕ¤ŕĽ ŕ¤ŕĽŕ¤ŕĽ ऎŕĽŕ¤ŕĽ पऌ ŕ¤ŕ¤¤ŕĽ चŕĽŕ¤. I am talking about this skewnessâŚ.this hazardous tilt. Where it will take us. What are we going to make of this country? Rakesh, 15 years down the line weâll have a force of mathematicians and of logically rich whiz-kids. They believe in 2+2=4. And they will see the problems in their own fair and square way. I have my doubts as a social thinker. I donât want to fight because, sincerely feeling, I cannot. I saw a flaw; I communicated it to the society. Whither India?
We can rationalize this. And debate should be on the approach of rationalization. Thatâs it.
@ NeenaâŚ
I was expecting this surname=Akhilesh shit from someone andâŚ..oh lady it had to be you !! First thing first, it should be âeither then sitâ and not âthanâ. Feeling jerked in ur mind na !! but i know its just a typograpic error.my apologies for highlighting that. just for funâŚ.hahahaha. u r an intelligent girl, as u seemâŚ..we all know that. a very intelligent girl who must have cleared UPSC pre-2013 and thus overjoyed with the self accoutured devine right to pulverize everyone on the web in whatever manner she deems fit on whatever forum she likes. Taken. Accepted. Hail you.Period.
But now the bigger question. Why people like you with High IQ (yeah i mean it) fail to get a sense of the surrounding, of the culture , of the company and the sanctity of the forum while âquickly digesting information and infer an approach to the problemâ. y u had to refer to my surname. What did you think while advising me to ask Akhilesh for a job.That its some facebook page and a caste based filthy remark will earn you kudos from the peers. Grow up kiddo. Its âmrunal.orgâ a place of worship for a messiah called mrunal and a temple of wisdom for people like me and thousands others. At the fag end of ur robust IQ there must be a threadbare strand of EQ. Y u forgot to use thatâŚ.or u r just not habitual of using that because ur IQ has been seeing u through in most of the exams. Y could u not analyse the milieu of the situation. where was ur wisdom. Where was that soft, not so analytical, a more emotional part of ur brain which could have suggested u not to indulge in such filthy affair when the agenda is completely contrary to this and warrants some social sense. i think wisdom goes beyond any information which u love digesting and regurgitating.Had u been on facebookâŚâŚu would have had it from me lady. But for this place my adrinalin would be the biggest polluter. I bow to Mrunal and accept ur undignified personal remarks.Pity you!! Hope UPSC design some test to examine something more important called E.Q and S.Q.hehehehe.kidding
Mrunal, i apologise on behalf of this lovely lady for bringing such immature topic on this forum. I am really sorry. And my apologies to every other member of this great community. I hope everybody agrees on this. Do we guys ? yes, i reckon.
I hope u dont make the same mistake while speaking in U.N. with ur super I.Q. brain. i want u to achive ur dreams wud request u to be a little careful.sometimes things are sensitiveâŚand that must be factored in at the cost of logic and rationality. Nothing against you. u r like my elder or younger sister and i wud love to see u make a mark as a civil servant. but a pinch of advice sometimes do a lot.
I am sorry for being rude to my sister but u started it sis.
And plz dont begin with finding faults in my english. My education has been in hindi medium. i know i have made zillions of mistakes. Alas !! ;-)
I do praise Mrunal but he is no GOD or benevolent person in my dictionary. He is simply trying to earn a living using the blogs. Did u miss the adverts? Also you too misspelled “adrenaline” in your post, I dont think that counts but hey I have a propensity to be competitive.
Really impressed by your articulation in the beginning but u dropped the tempo later. Work on that for the Mains :) and hopefully we can share the same Cadre :) Have a nice day :)
hey abhishek yadav r u from Gurgaaon? u remind me of my old friend with same name Abhishek yadav…plz reply back
@ Master of Puppets
Nopes, Dost !!
By the way what do i exactly remind u of ? Something good or bad ? And yes, friends already ;-)
And you again missed the woods for the trees….
And thanks for pointing out one spelling mistake despite the disclaimer at the end. Probably u were too preoccupied by my loss of tempo towards the end that your grey matter deceived you into committing one more E.Q error. Hehehehe
By the way, without seeking your permission, i would like to extend the analogy you foisted on us. Hmmmmmmmm your parents should also be just praiseworthy in their efforts to bring you up, and you should never ever give them credit for far more important philosophical and cultural construct of yours. Its not just about the concepts on ‘Mrunal.org’ its far more deeper than you can probably dig. But what benevolence….hardly matters….stupid me….can’t i see the adverts. Accepted. hail you. Period. Lets go ahead.
One fine morning this lovely lady wakes up and shakes up a strongly cerebral flavored broth in her IQ laden cauldron called brain and propounds a theory that papa, you are just praiseworthy by my dictionary. After all you are doing it to secure your post retirement days. Your pension is not going to meet the ends, u know that, so your investment in me is actually to secure your future. I am sorry but that is plainly praiseworthy to me pappa. Nothing more than that. So pappa dont blame me if i decide contrary to ur expectations and link your post retirement share of love, care, benevolence,company and financial support with inflation adjusted returns on the investment you made initially. Its plain economics papa. Y cud u not see this reasoning 20 years back. See your daughter. So sharp was she to nail the whole mirky mrunal effort as just an economic act helped by Mr larry Page’s and Sergey Brin’s brilliant google algorithm. Nothing more than that.
You have had it one more time lady Neena. U cant monetize every effort. Every man is not an economic-man on this earth. And you mentioned the world GOD. Lady, sometimes collector has to play god. They are expected to do so. Think of flood, disaster, social calamity…collector, quite often, does assume the charecters of god. collector saheb matlab 24*7 on duty. But Collector Neena will defy these stupid norms. Because, to her, every effort has an economic end. Y the hell should she’play god’ when she is just paid 450000 bucks. After all she is an economic-woman. An underpaid ‘economic-woman’ cannot play ‘god’ when UPSC and govt of india had expected her to do so relying solely on her brilliant brain. She would go on explaining her logic to everyone that there was someone called Mrunal and he was doing a very good job…a very ‘praiseworthy’ job…..but he was making his living on google adverts (and stupid Yadav never realised that) and that was a sin. So everyone, be it pappa or Mrunal, doing a job; great, awesome, brilliant or whatever; is just praiseworthy as long as he is doing it for monetary benefit.
Lady….learn to appreciate others’ efforts in its true spirit. Learn to look beyond Mrunal bhai’s adverts and dear Uncle’s long term investment in you and respect their commitmnent in terms of their value addition beyond their expected monetory return. Hope u get this emotionomics with yours IQ spilling super brains. HEHEHE
By the way there were so many errors in the previous post and there are lot many more in this one but hope this time you would not miss woods for the trees………. ;-)
oh. Bloody me. How could I introduce the monetary element to this sacrosanct forum. But tell me you sanctimonious Ape, doesn’t Wikipedia EXIST? Clearly from your redaction and articulation I can make out the fundamental errors in your preparation!!!
And Really, very Civil and Gentle of you to drag an old man in the conversation. How thoughtful! Let me reciprocate – Instead of economic investments and meticulous planning; my dad should have actually bought …
Well drop it, I dont wanna play the dirty politics game. Who knows maybe 2mmrw some political party might be stadning in front of my door and demanding an Apology. GO home and STUDY! and let me be in Peace.
bravo….
@ neena wow…u r a double threat..u r both arrogant and ignorant…either way u r gonna hurt.
and wat is ur surname so tat i can make fun of it? is it arrogant coz it would make a lot of sense
@yadav…nice skils bro…use it for ur essay
@ yadav and don’t waste your time writing self-apologetic explanation to a pretentious narcissistic chimp/chic.
Thanks atten-sky……..but she forced me to do this.
My surname is Williams. Go ahead. Show me what you got? Like my community hasn’t already faced enuf?
Ironically it just makes us stronger :) … I have got 100 families mentioning me in their Sunday prayers!! What have you got?
Douche-bags!!
aren’t u feeling fresh…sure gimme u r address, i ll send u douche bags..how many do u want?
by your community i presume its anglo-indian (i already had a doubt with “bloody me”)… u r just making it too easy….i hope u r great great grandmother liked a white…lets say…i phone..he he
over and out
@ neena and why don’t ask prince Williams for a job…he might be related to u by 0.00000015%…..may be u can baby sit!!!
@neena- If you respect your community, learn to respect other community as well. Even in your community there are surnames like Goldsmith,Blacksmith. If the surname yadav reminds you of “buffalo and milk business” in a derogatory manner(as if yadavs are destined to do that forever) any body can assume that your great grandmother was in the sevice of 6 foot 5 inch King Williams of Nicaragua.
ok. Anything else?
@ Hi Neena…..wassup girl ?
Hows ur study goin ?
Never mind these words. People are taking it too far. Its getting dirty. I know u must be focussing on ur studies. Thats a much better idea….
By the way what are doing for ‘internal security’ part of the syllabus…?
Do tell me…………..
I hope u believe in things called ceasefire…..truce……armistice !!!! :-) :-(…
@ neena i jus think i went over board and i apologize…this isnt productive to anyone…am out of here
@ NEENA
And you again missed the woods for the trees….
And thanks for pointing out one spelling mistake despite the disclaimer at the end. Probably u were too preoccupied by my loss of tempo towards the end that your grey matter deceived you into committing one more E.Q error. Hehehehe
By the way, without seeking your permission, i would like to extend the analogy you foisted on us. Hmmmmmmmm your parents should also be just praiseworthy in their efforts to bring you up, and you should never ever give them credit for far more important philosophical and cultural construct of yours. Its not just about the concepts on ‘Mrunal.org’ its far more deeper than you can probably dig. But what benevolence….hardly matters….stupid me….can’t i see the adverts. Accepted. hail you. Period. Lets go ahead.
One fine morning this lovely lady wakes up and shakes up a strongly cerebral flavored broth in her IQ laden cauldron called brain and propounds a theory that papa, you are just praiseworthy by my dictionary. After all you are doing it to secure your post retirement days. Your pension is not going to meet the ends, u know that, so your investment in me is actually to secure your future. I am sorry but that is plainly praiseworthy to me pappa. Nothing more than that. So pappa dont blame me if i decide contrary to ur expectations and link your post retirement share of love, care, benevolence,company and financial support with inflation adjusted returns on the investment you made initially. Its plain economics papa. Y cud u not see this reasoning 20 years back. See your daughter. So sharp was she to nail the whole mirky mrunal effort as just an economic act helped by Mr larry Page’s and Sergey Brin’s brilliant google algorithm. Nothing more than that.
You have had it one more time lady Neena. U cant monetize every effort. Every man is not an economic-man on this earth. And you mentioned the world GOD. Lady, sometimes collector has to play god. They are expected to do so. Think of flood, disaster, social calamity…collector, quite often, does assume the charecters of god. collector saheb matlab 24*7 on duty. But Collector Neena will defy these stupid norms. Because, to her, every effort has an economic end. Y the hell should she’play god’ when she is just paid 450000 bucks. After all she is an economic-woman. An underpaid ‘economic-woman’ cannot play ‘god’ when UPSC and govt of india had expected her to do so relying solely on her brilliant brain. She would go on explaining her logic to everyone that there was someone called Mrunal and he was doing a very good job…a very ‘praiseworthy’ job…..but he was making his living on google adverts (and stupid Yadav never realised that) and that was a sin. So everyone, be it pappa or Mrunal, doing a job; great, awesome, brilliant or whatever; is just praiseworthy as long as he is doing it for monetary benefit.
Lady….learn to appreciate others’ efforts in its true spirit. Learn to look beyond Mrunal bhai’s adverts and dear Uncle’s long term investment in you and respect their commitmnent in terms of their value addition beyond their expected monetory return. Hope u get this emotionomics with yours IQ spilling super brains. HEHEHE
By the way there were so many errors in the previous post and there are lot many more in this one but hope this time you would not miss woods for the trees………. ;-)
ey abhishek yadav r u from Gurgaaon? u remind me of my old friend with same name Abhishek yadavâŚplz reply back
@ Master of Puppets
Nopes, Dost !!
By the way what do i exactly remind u of ? Something good or bad ? And yes, friends already ;-)
Neena mam ,,,why u r wasting time here,,,go and prepare for mains :)
P.M. U said it right. I am just doing that and not reading his shit anymore;Probably a sore loser :( .. :) ..
Thank you PM and Wish you best for your preparation.
Well, u embroiled yourself into this mess.
And that Ape remark deserves an equally blatant reply. Just imagine if I start exploring my vocabulary to emulate the same. But leave it……lets leave it in the honor of the old man who is more respectable to me than to you. Sorry if i hurt your sentiments related to dad. But it was never meant to be that way. Never ever.
Things do hurt below the belt, girl….always mind it !! You were not fair in your first reply.
And as to preparation, hehehehehe what preparation yaar……i toh teach in a primary school. I don’t belong to such wadda wadda exams.
And please do throw some light on this redaction thing….u owe an explanation. And if this is called redaction then perhaps u were much more imaginative in your redaction while associating me with some Akhilesh.
And yes Wikipedia exists….i does……..but it runs on donations and philanthropic contributions…..You should make some too. Mrunal.org is absolutely free of cost. He does not even urge you to donate. That is called a sustainable business model. Simple.
Regards,
Ape ;-)
actually Abhishek yadav is one of my few best friend…but currently we are not in contact ,he also behave angry but good at heart
ok. thanx. waise mai gussa nhi ho raha tha. pata nahi kyo itna sab likh dala. and good at heart ke baare me to yaar mujhe lagta hai ki sabhi hote hain aise hi………….even neena khud bahut achhi hai dil ki aisa mujhe lagta hai……..bas pata nhi kyo jhagda ho gaya. ab strategy puchh rha hu to bata hi nahi rahi hain ;-)
A) i do not like to speak in foul language or debate without substantial data only hypothesizing. I called my uncle who made a few more calls and yada yada yada – UPSC says even at 65 in paper 1 – they were not able to get requisite number of candidates. So long for your Serious Candidates Theory. You dont have to take my word for it – be a Real and Genuine candidate – File RTI and test UPSC as to what information they are ready to disclose. I have drafted the application and will post it when I apply for mains.
B) My Grand was actually a Freedom Fighter like my Granny. Both were English and felt for Indians. He had even shared a cell with Gandhi and refused “Special Treatment” when he served time on multiple occasions. That being that – So much for your claim for preparing GS1. You failed to construe how Nehru and Constituent assembly appreciated and recognized the contributions of Anglo Indians. They realized how some of them faced discrimination in immigration(UK, Australia and Canada) if involved with the Freedom Struggle.
C) I can give so many replies to you. I can also take action against you for your derogatory remarks for women. But really do not wanna get entangled in litigation or politics.
D) I really do not blame you for your approach. Gosh, you guys only learn wrong things from movies. What do you imagine – Girls love being teased or molested like Salman or some hero does it again and again in movies? And then charm strikes and she magically falls in love with the hero. Well you failed to read the disclaimer associated with these – “This is all Imaginary”. Bloody hell, You guys think women are only to give their silent and unconditional consent to whatever men say. If they so much even express their perspectives they should be subjected to “disgusting” remarks!! Or God-forbid if they rebuke a proposal they are should be slaughtered! Wow – When did the “Gentlemen” disappear? These are the times of barbarism now!
E) Yes I do have the option open to get a PhD from Oxford but many people in my community wanted me to attempt CS before I embark on my journey into professional life. They inspired me and keep encouraging me every other day.
F) Ignorance comes with experience – live like a girl for 1 day and you will quickly learn it too. Arrogance and humility both come with achievements.
G) I have no beef with you. But if you want to claim equality then next time when you apply then come fight with me in UPSC on equal grounds. You file application under reserved categories, then come here and brandish your skills. But when it comes to realities you back down. Imagine going to interview and declaring the same!! Also, if you are really that talented then do it for your own community sake!!
@Neena
I will reply one by one.
65 marks !! well…..How does this piece of information prove that there is no more scope for further rationalisation of this exam, and in its present tenor it is not tilted in favour of the left hemisphere of the brains and thus of those who are born with it ? Donât know what to make of this information (may be my left hemisphere is failing me again) ;-)
Community! Community!! Community!!!
Get over with this inebriating but highly toxic/putrid romanticism.
‘ Y dont u ask Akhilesh for a job? ‘
‘ sit home and hope Akhilesh can do something for you. ‘
‘ Like my community hasnât already faced enuf? ‘
‘Ironically it just makes us stronger :) ⌠I have got 100 families mentioning me in their Sunday prayers!! ‘
‘I have appeared in the exam on persuasion of certain members from my community’
‘Many people in my community wanted me to attempt CS before I embark on my journey into professional life. ‘
This is a bad hangover. Chauvinism, garbed shrewdly and tightly in the sense of community, started bursting at the seams with the slightest prick. This is what happened with you.
Before going ahead…….here I devote few lines to grand pa….I know he must be feeling uncomfortable at your ideals…..
Oh fighter, oh warrior
Break your quiet,
Rest not in peace.
Country you fought for,
The tree you planted,
Stands in shambles
Holding its grief, all apiece.
Roots hold the land; no more the tree.
Bole squirms, barked thickly
Dazed are all, I and thee.
Leaves flutter,
Falter they quiver
They made communes,
What never they were….
Oh Marshal comes back..!!
Perhaps he will find something more aligned to his dreams in these lines and will feel happy for a moment.
Where were we…..oh yes, the community thing…
Stop hopping on and off communities at your convenience. First you hopped onto the Prelims qualifier community, and then you hopped onto the minority community and its miseries, then you found solace in the ever so powerful but victimised community of the fairer sex. What is this yaar. Play by rules. Remain stable.
The great freedom fighter must have fought for the âcountryâ and not for a particular community. And her daughter just hates to use this world. In the entirety of her barrage of arguments I wanted to see this word, but to my chagrin it never was there. Community is not a bad word as such but sounds odd when the context is larger and all encompassing.
I know you will never say in the interview that your community wanted you to become an IAS officer or you are doing it for your community people. No way. You are too smart to make that error. A completely different person will be answering questions before the interview panel. Community will become society, âyour peopleâ will become under privileged section of the society and blah blah blah…..blah
But, lets face it, it is the way it should be.
My only concern is that who is fooled in the whole gimmick. May be the people of India.
Read Fred Riggs Prismatic Sala model if public administration is not your subject. This community sense is lethal and more so when it is dissolved with the powers of bureaucracy. This is what is ailing this country and not so much the corruption at the bottom. Anyway itâs a long debate we can indulge in but only if you desire. At your convenience. I donât want my writings and thoughts to be perceived as undignified overtures.
Foul language !!
I found a Neena elsewhere on this website whose SSC paper was not evaluated properly and she also âscrewedâ the SSC âbastardsâ through RTI. And then again there is a Neena who had a problem with âHoney Singhâ name. I found the âtoneâ quite similar at both the places. I hope you are none of these Neenas. And if you are, then may god save you at ‘Oxford’.
(Disclaimer: Just a figment of imagination with my weak left hemisphere. In all due respect to your knowledge and abilities….It should not take anything away from you. hehehehe)
My replies have been apologetic on most of the occasions with the leitmotif of dignity and appreciation barring few instances. Some carefully chosen metaphors and meticulously drawn allegories did the trick, as they were meant to do just that much, to wash it down to you that it pricks when you call someone Ape and Douche-bags. Although all this does not merit a judicial exercise (already overburdened judicial system) but even if it did we both had a fair chance of landing in jail. Hahahaha. Equally caustic remarks. Come on yaar……Ape…..yugh I have evolved enough to be called human, so what if not that civilized in you perception. What was the need to associate me with my great great great great great grand parents lying comfortably in their graves. And you took offence when I took liberty to take that idea forward by highlighting their primitive response to the call of nature, but in a completely dignified texture, context and notion. This is unfair haan. But anyway. I am sorry. Iâll always be. I never talk to girls in this manner. Lets cut it here.
Jokes apart. Do study the problem of open defecation in India and its consequences as in Stunting amongst children. Important for mains.
Your âlets fall in loveâ idea is a total conspiracy theory, absolutely misplaced and uncalled for. Still laughing. This is the greatest disservice a girl can do to herself. âGentlemenâ only forwarded their apologies and did not extend their hands (like Rahul in DDLJ). Your remarks lead to a much much more sensitive debate but i donât know if it is an apt place for that. Anyway Usha Mehra and Justice Verma have already exhausted their energies in their researches (Justcice Verma could not survive the rigour…..and exhausted his life altogether…PBUH). So we need not waste ourâs. But if you want, we can indulge in this luxury any day. I am sorry if you felt so but only if you are not using it as a buttress in the sense of victimisation. Thats plainly sore haan.
As to your social service, I bow to you girl. Mujh jaise hazar gawaar marte honge to ek padhi likhi aur sincere Neena paida hoto hogi (i hope u r from north India or u can understand Hindi). Will never belittle whats good in you but will never spare for whats wrong in you. And one more thing. This fight is with what you are not, because somewhere I still believe that itâs not real you. You are good. Like we all are. Just a little more combative than the rest of us. As I am a little more gladiatorially truculent than the rest of you.
A great writer has observed animosity very beautifully….
le mere tajurboN se sabaK ae mere raqeeB
do chaar saal umR meiN tuJhse baDa hooN maiN
Raqueeb=Enemy
Hope you understand hindi. If not, donât hesitate to request a translation. Even I cannot understand something written in Kannada, Telugu, Tamil or Malyalam. ;-)
Keep smiling.
On your last comment, take a bow! Now you are using constructive criticism.
You are really have a way with words and affairs with prose as well as verse.
You really bit the bullet and proved to be a gentleman.
Best wishes with mains, you would certainly prove to be good administrator.
Thanks Kabir……acha laga sun ke.
By the way I love ur name. I mean ‘Kabir’ is a great philosophy.
My statistics vindicate the group you so loudly been accusing to have “stolen” a precious opportunity from “Serious” candidates, rob them off!! Because unfortunately the same weren’t able to pass a pathetically low bar set at 65. You can file “AN RTI” and get it verified. There are many who have been criticizing that 32% passing marks is too low. I dont understand the same because after the exam everyone was lamenting that paper was “too” damn easy.
While the rest goes, Darn it – I lost you. Didnt read the rest. But from the tone, I am not in the mood @ moment to read through, right now. On my TDL for now. Really tired. Yeah, I wrote my last post deci rather milli heartedly. So do pardon me there. Because I miss the whole point of doing it. But as they say fight it thru, dont back down in middle..
Ufffffffffff itna tashan !!
The Lady was not tired to post a written reply which required more time, energy and motion, but was tired to give a cursory reading……..hahahahaha. Antithetical !!!
And get over this attitude of i-lost-you to things which cut no ice with you. You might not agree to them but they can be important.
And i have no shame in accepting that i read all your posts at least 10 times to learn something from them. Thanks for all of them.
Do tell me when you are prepared to write. World would love to read
a deci-centi-milli hearted oxford invitee writer pouring her thoughts wholeheartedly. Banda bhi hazir hoga to allow you to-lose-me one more time…with all my bakwaas
I have read that saboo’s (chacha choudhary’s friend) anger
erupts volcano on jupiter. I wonder what would happen if this girl starts smiling……there will be spring in the Sahara desert, may be !!
But do tell me when u r ready.
Mutual admiration society…….Meena and PM….hahaha
I don’t know what made them think that i have not cleared the exam.
Anyway, Don’t escape…..fight with this ‘loser’. I know u cannot ignore this shit…..because it stinks of your own intellectual excreta, because its a result of yours IN-OPEN DEFECATION of lousy half baked thoughts, u admit it or not. You must have visited this page twice or thrice in the mean time to check this shit ;-)
Don’t run away !!
@yadav bhai, neena thinks that anyone who does not agree with her is a loser in pre exam. it is one thing to clear pre, and other to remain alive to current realities of paper being unbalaced and thus unjust in its outcome. many who cleared have acknowledged this fact, it does not take away anything from you. it is really sad when someone clears pre and thinks others are losers.typical elitism.
See………..she cant face the reality. Reply Lady Brainiac !! Where are you hiding
ok
am sure P.M is herself? from some other ID …calling herself mam
ha ha
well said abhishek!!! really impressed!
@ Mansi
Thanx dear !!
bro… ur tryst with words is exceptionally good ….all da best fr mains…if u dnt mind cd i know ur email id?
@ dca
Thanks bro…
U can reach me at
yoursinglorious@gmail.com
Abhishek u have a way wid words man! have .. what are ur optionals?
@ Mansi
Public Administration
@Abhishek Great Writing Skills buddy,
I agree with you.
same here! all the best wid ur prep dea! and how cn i reach you/?
@ Mansi
yoursinglorious@gmail.com
@ Arvi
Thank you dost
In west there are racists, in India I don’t know a word for this!!
If u don’t know someone, don’t speak like a jerk. Shame on you!
ok. anything else? is that all?
Dear Neena, You are truly a person who likes to condescend, demean, stereotype and discriminate and you defend all of these qualities on the base of your gender and race.
No doubt you have got brains but it is being used for some destructive purpose, if you are better than others you must use it to help the less privileged.
May I ask you why are you appearing for this exam?
@ Akhilesh:
If someone behaves in improper manner openly with you it doesn’t permit you to retaliate with veiled impropriety.
I too, attempted this year but failed it, it doesn’t mean I outcry how biased, corrupt or wrong UPSC is. I know where I went wrong and I am ready to correct my mistakes and reappear again.
Dear kabir,
I have appeared in the exam on persuasion of certain members from my community. I have worked on more Poverty alleviation programs and Business plans than the number of years in you spent on schooling. Some have even been accredited/lauded by respective UN forums. Unlike many politicians I believe that my own welfare lies in the welfare of the masses. I cannot be a part of this country where a majority of imperative funds are wasted(leakages etc.) in name of extensive Missions. Also many of the elements and characters have no interest in actually eradicating them. For once poor have vanished, hunger is quelled then the related schemes will also disappear. Recently my father offered to open a welfare hospital in a remote village in “some” state. Unfortunately he was forced to come to economic senses, thanks to graft. Well there is always a witty reply – If you really want to work public welfare then begin with me! If otherwise then I do have a claim!
Dear Neena,
Nice to know that you have done such a good work and I hope you will continue to do so when you would become administrator of this country. You have a noble goal in front of you and your community wishes to see you in civil services. Which is very appreciable.
I would like to say, please don’t stereotype and underestimate others just they are different from you. Prejudice stops you from learning from others. Try to be open to criticisms and acquire a bit of humility. Only great people have the quality of being humble which makes them better than most of us. Even Gadhiji admitted he was not god and a mere human; he admitted his mistakes which truly makes him Mahatma. You and I, still have a lot to achieve in life.
Neena, just out of curiosity, why do u keep saying community every second word u speak. Frankly, I do not know much about ur community or for that matter which community u belong to. Maybe U mentioned it and I missed it. I just could not resist posting this because I am simply curious. Do not get me wrong. But why do u want to project that u and ur community are the sole sufferers in the sorry history of India. Every community known to man has suffered at one point or another in the hands of another rival community. So please do not flash the community card anymore. We are all Indians at the end of the day. Let us grow up and start thinking “Indian” rather than “my community”. Just my two bits! Feel free to reject it.
I hope u will stay around to clarify. I am not gonna visit this thread again but then I have subscribed so if u post a reply it will directly reach my mailbox. U take care and good luck!
s they should re-instate optional at least for 50 marks….toughness of that question paper doesnt matter……in earlier arrangement i could have easily clear prelim with geography optional…..but now this csat and its weightage making my life full of misery…see @karthik…clearing exam cz of only paper 2…..score in paper 1 is not even 35%…..in fact that is not going to help him much in his career….those who scores in paper 1 is really talented…..but unfortunately upsc eliminating them in the name of csat….very sad
Instead of wasting time here, y dont you post your remarks/suggestions to the Chairman – UPSC. You do have the right to inform him of the ground reality and probmlems being faced by the candidates. Go for IT :) If possible to gather weightage/prominence you can get it attested by a good number of students. Do something so that next time you sit in interview then the Chairman/Panel members might be able to recognize you from your name. STOP wasting time :)
why the hell r u guys fighting :P go study
@stop making mockery of other peoples misery and giving logic like “people are poor because they deserve to bee boor” wake up, and don’t be so selfish, you have already won half the battle.
@Neena-stop making mockery of other peoples misery and giving logic like âpeople are poor because they deserve to be poorâ wake up, and donât be so selfish, you have already won half the battle.Down with elitism and colonialism.
neena jyada kaabil matt bano…padhai kro….tmre aise intelligent log gali gali me mil jate hain
@neena …. lady u amaze me…dont be so cynical…if u cant atlease give mrunal a pat on his back, then just keep your mouth shut..this place ‘s not for u…and yeah, I hope u just dont end up like ur namesake of our film industry….
Abhishek, my experience so far tells me that there are few things in life which are fair. Good people do not succeed in life because they were good or because they were smack in the middle of a favorable situation. They succeed because they rise up to the challenge and refuse to take it lying down. Instead of complaining about the unfairness of the paper, it will be in our own best interest to accept the fact and get on with it by doing whatever it is that we are supposed to do to win the game. This is my last attempt as I belong to the general category. This is the last attempt for any other government exam that I care to write (like bank po etc.,). However I made up my mind that I will go ahead and give my best this time with everything I have got. If I don’t crack it honestly, I will be in quite a bit of trouble professionally as my scores in graduation is not something I am proud of. But, if I stop to complain about the unfairness of the situation here, blaming people/situation, then I will never make it. If life gives you a lemon, learn to make a lemonade. Don’t wish for orange juice. So pull up ur socks. And start running and don’t ever look back.. Buddy, hope u take it in the right sense. This is not Gyaan. Just a friendly word from one aspirant to another.
Love u bro……..i will take it wholeheartedly. U said it, but u expressed an opinion. Someone else said the same thing but she made a statement.Such a vivid contrast. I have taken it in the utmost right earnest and promise to follow your advice. But will not stop fighting…..hahahahah
abhishek … a piece of advice for u .. dont write this type of language in UPSC mains … its good for neenas but not UPSC mains … i hope u are getting what i m trying to point at… an as a concerned citizen of UP i would like to have ur opinion on current policies of akhilesh … can we justify him distributing laptop and waste public money … at my home we have 5 laptops … still we got one from akhilesh .. dont know what to do with it …
If you already had five then, brother, your family should have ideally turned down the offer. But anyway, this ideal is very Utopian.
Partially unjustified. What should have come third in the series of development measures or electoral bounties, whatever you want to call it, came first. Laptops should have been preceded by moderate e-literation and free access to workable-fast internet facility. Nevertheless, this all should be preceded by Education, Health and income etc but i’m assuming these variables constant. My opinion in just about laptops.
Then why did I call it partially unjustified. Well, its hard to measure multidimensional effects of such devices. The trickle down effects may be unaccountable but we cannot ignore them. Five good kids becoming world-class coders 10 years down the line because of these laptop will be worth the entire project cost. Just assume one turning into Bill gates. Hahahahaha UP ki to balle balle ho jayegi.
Disclaimer : Personal and subjective opinion
rather than turn into bill gates i think due to lack of proper education these laptops would be more used for watching porn movies ..
very much possible. 99.99999% possibility isi ki hai. but i was talking of a rare phenomenon called ‘outlier’ in regression analysis. and I am not saying this as a fan of akhilesh yadav or his extended clan. no way. its more related to indian abilities in reverse engineering, jugaad vidyaa and their love affair with IT. nothing more than that.
Mr. Karthik,
You are arguments are absolutely silly. It doesn’t mean that you are serious, if you are leaving a job that is paying one lakh or more. Are you trying to do some selfless service??… Do not justify your desires here.. You are not satisified with your job nor you took MBA degree with your interest from IIM college. If you have been so interested in MBA, you would have not come here….So people like you are jumping from one field to another to satisfy your desires and you are not doing any great service here to justify your actions. Its plain and simple self interested individualism.
And do you know the meaning of pressure?…. If you do not qualify in UPSC …you will again get a job of 1 lakh salary from some company…. This is not the case with others..where their choice is very much limited….There is imbalance in the choice one can exercise…This kind of person is called serious, where he risks everything and not people like you…who create back ups and come….
And do not think that person with aptitude ( as demanded by exams ) is so very intelligent…. Intelligence has a different meaning….. We are just applying the concepts found by some scholars/philosophers…. The syllogistic reasoning that comes in CSAT was founded by Aristotle in 3rd century BC…. So People like you feel great in Doing such things…. IF you are so intelligent go and invent something or innovate and take the country to next level…. This was expected from graduates of IIT and IIM…. we can see the pity state …
DO not feel that I am venting my grievance here…. I am a pass out from IIT kharagpur… and have cleared prelims too…. Just dont do rhetoric and justify the system…IF you cant change the system …please do not talk about it..
Yes, according to me the exam is getting elitist…and all voices should be heard by UPSC …and it is the duty of such a body to follow the principles of democracy…If they expect aptitude ..let it be a part of all curriculum in India….whether it is arts, science or engineering… It is not justice….to expect strong building without a strong base!!!
objective analysis means analysing problems and prospectus of question asked in gs and writing answers in different dimensions….it doesnt applies for csat….my score in GS is 94 but unable to clear prelims……2nd attempt also gone now…..
@Karthik.
Its good that you have made it. I hope you will make it to the final list. But there are loopholes in the preliminary stage. I am a software engineer, who gave up job after 2 years of experience for the sake of UPSC.
In 2010, i wrote with optionals at preliminary stage. But from 2011, I am struggling to clear prelims despite scoring more marks in paper1. My score in paper1 were 90 [in 2011], 98 [in 2012] and expecting 100 [in 2013].
I was expecting 240+ this year, But my name was not in the mains list. Now my journey with UPSC is over. There is no parity between paper1 and paper2.
@aim 123 we are fighting.see this and need contribution from you and your friends.www.fightupsc.com
Mr Karthik from IIM Calcutta
You yourself say that you wrote prelims ‘without preparation’ and that u ‘ HAVE TO’ put in a lot of effort for mains , but feel bad when being called a non-serious candidate ???? (by serious candidates i guess the meaning is – those who have a solid preparation and HAVE already put in a lot of effort for mains)
do you know that a score of 60 in GS is way below average w.r.t the scores of serious candidates ?
u are asking people to ‘objectively analyse’ what upsc expects more.that is in fact the crux of the issue.the belief was that upsc expects candidates to have a very very wide knowledge base (built over 1.5-2 years), analytical abilities w.r.t important issues, awareness, patience, desire to serve the nation etc. all these things are still required in the mains.
Even in 2012 the aptitude paper was balanced and GS was the deciding factor.so it was consistent with our ‘objective analysis’ of what upsc expects.
But in 2013 aptitude paper has assumed much greater significance.people like u who have a below average score in GS have qualified due to unbelievably high scores in csat.
The selection of people like u (and rejection of people having good scores in GS – around 90-100) is in contradiction with our objective analysis of what upsc expects.
people who are much better prepared than u for mains (serious candidates), and would have written much better answers in the mains exam, have been eliminated in prelims itself.and all of this is solely because of your unbelievably high score in csat.
you will not be able to understand their problem because you havent put in any effort yet for this exam.
if there was one single/concrete/consistent answer to what upsc expects from students , then i think we would not be having this discussion at all.
i agree with u that intelligence and decision making are required.but is intelligence more important than temperament (which is tested by GS) in administration ??? and there were only around 7 questions from decision making.i dont think that is a problem.
u say that IIM guys will have to read a lot for mains like everyone else.true.but that ‘ everyone else group ‘ mainly includes people like u.people who have read much more than u ( GS, optional) are already eliminated from the race. so i guess u people should be thankful to prelims for reducing the competition in mains.
people are not against the very existence of csat paper.they are against the undue importance it is getting, which has made GS look less important.this contradicts the objective analysis of what upsc expects.
if there is a concrete/consistent answer to what upsc’s expectations are then students can focus on improving in those areas and prepare. But if the answer keeps changing year after year, then its probably a lottery not an exam.
You are very right, i too have seen many serious candidates not clearing csat due to its bias towards paper 2. Someone must take matter to court.
Forgive me for my lack of understanding, but I didn’t get the argument that CSAT II has more weight or that it somehow turns out to be the deciding factor when the t both these papers carry equal credit as is expounded by various commentators in the ongoing discussion in this forum.
@ Akash P- it means you leave ethics paper(sit at home) in mains and attain 70% in rest of the paper and be in top 100. dont feign ignorance and pamper yourself.
Haha Zodiac is so funny. The same logic can be turned on its head and it can be held that some guy can come and score 170+ in Paper-I and score very low in paper-II, thus upsetting the so-called “balance” and yet clear the prelims. As long as there is no sectional cut off, such comments are useless and candidates are free to concentrate on papers, as they wish, in accordance with the strategies that they have adopted. I need not feign ignorance nor is there any need for me to pamper myself (I myself cleared prelims comfortably, with 300+) but just that the above argument was so stupid that it beat my comprehension. If some guys are sailing on the crust of their aptitude skills, then why don’t others also do the same, in either paper. Differential scoring in both papers signify the difference in the propensities of candidates in different aspects and there is no reason for suggesting that candidates should not leverage on their respective strengths and aim to “clear” the exam in whatever way possible.
PS:- Yes, I do belong to the legion of the much despised (as is evident from some of the comments) legion of branded tech grads- IITian and I hope that would not per se invalidate my argument.
@AKASH P- so you got superbrain, but why is so difficult to understand that scoring 170 in paper1 is almost next to impossible, the nature of GS is different and no body can claim profieciency in it beyond a point, which is not the case with GS paper 2, and for you superbrains paper 2 is like nothing(a,b,c)that means you dont study it at all, still manage in excess of 170+, and with 2.5*80 it digs the grave of even mid-level engineers. you guys are crowding out social science and arts sudents. Your IQ does not necessarily translate in admn. capability. So UPSC should actually debar non science students from the exam, because otherwise it is just an eyewash.
Point well taken as far as the ease with which tech grads can score enormously high scores in CSAT-II. Forgive me for my stupidity in not taking that argument seriously, earlier. Let me rephrase the issue differently. Isn’t it for the UPSC to think about this and redesign their examination structure to take this aspect into account or it is for “us” to take “ethical” responsibility for this? Well Zodiac, when you say “you guys are crowding out social science and arts students”, are you suggesting that “we” guys-the “super brains”- should keep ourselves away from UPSC exams because otherwise we would be committing a morally abhorrent act? Our intention,or at least in my case, is not to deprive others(of who, you are a self-appointed spokesperson) of their chances, but that I am genuinely interested in joining the civil services. “We” don’t just write any exams to satisfy some sadistic pleasure that we may derive from the loses of other guys. And, UPSC is not the turf of anyone, not even the arts or the social sciences guys – it is open for all and sundry – as anyone and everyone who satisfy basic eligibility criterion are free to participate. Just scoring unusually high marks in CSAT-II won’t render a person, per se, “non-serious” and lacking in “admin capability”, irrespective of his scoring in the first paper. Well, I agree that it is prudent for the UPSC to fix sectional cut off say 90 in paper-I, and I am just fine with it and it will also clear your objection . As regards to the administrative capability, no kind of objective, OMR sheet thing, “inky pinky ponky” test, whether CSAT-II or even previous pubad optional in prelims can accurately gauge or even remotely access the so-called “admin capability” and can only test memory skills. Can you point out a single question in CSAT-I, which you can’t answer without the admin acumen?
not even 35% in gs paper1 prelims……ur score in csat doesnt help u in mains…and even in ur future career
@Vk…i have seen some people who are really smart..they have the idea what to study or what to not..obvioulsy hard work is required but with their smart work they are able to finish and decipher the pattern within a short and limited time which may not be possible for people like me and someone else..many people take it longer to qualify..it hurts that they are on the merit list within so little time but we have to accept that..u and me cant predict the destiny of others.I have seen three failures at mains level..but people have qualified both the ways.
@ all
I guess this debate on Serious and non serious candidates does not hold ground… It is a competitive exam and the one who scores higher clears… as simple as that… a ‘serious candidate’ who could not clear should have been serious to CSAT as well… and a ‘non serious’ candidate will be weeded out in mains if he fails to write the subjective papers nicely… In the end the best will make it… further a ‘non serious candidate’ is a genius if he can turn into a ‘serious candidate’ in six months and clear it…seems to be equitable and fair if we do not attach any value judgement to it….
Hi
it means in prelims we have to concentrate more on paper II rather paper one.? because there is much
uncertainty in comparison to paper I.
@shivani- it means that even if you are getting 160 in paper2 and 70 in paper1 you could be out, and by the the time the fire will spread to 98-99 percentilers in CAT, so you have to work a little bit harder.
@shivani..u r rite.prelims demands like this only..in order to survive and qualify..we have to think that way only.
@ Shivani, yes simply because u can score more in paper ii… the questions are very simple… time is the critical factor…those who finished the paper ii went on to score as high as 280+… GS is always unpredictable… though gs shud not be neglected… u see if every one starts scoring 170 in paper ii, then by default gs becomes deciding factor…a score of 100+ is considered very gud in gs…
Dude……..All the best…….I too got 60 and above in paper 1 but was able to get around 140-160 only in paper 2 and couldnt clear
After this prelims result I felt that a level playing field should be created by introducing individual cutoff.
mrunal,
i first appeared in 2011,,got 194 from various keys did not get selected as cut off was 198
2nd attempt=205=again failed
this time i was getting 261 and was sure that i will clear pre..but when result came i again failed..
mrunal sir please guide me what to do…i have my last attempt left..pls sir help me…i dont know what to do. i am shocked with this year result.
Bhai u asked ur question from mrunal .Probably hes the best person to reckon with. But if u can consider what i am gonna say…it may help u.U should focus on mains preparation rather than worrying abt prelims , bcoz i personally know many guys who went on to the interview stages for 2-3 times but still cudnt make it to the final list…….people think they must be horrible in interviews ….but the fact is(as they themselves told me) that they dont fare well in mains which debars them from succeeding.
What i want to say is if u are solid with ur mains preparation(for which u have 1 full year) u wud definitely clear the prelims and wud do really well in next stages.
besides, u can work upon ur aptitude section to overcome the prelims hurdle,but then again,remember it is only how well u prepare for mains decides whether or not u become a civil servant .ATB!!
@ Nitin.. so true.. mains is very imp…
@ Ajay… u must work on paper ii… try giving as many mock tests as possible to increase your speed…. for gs u shud be well prepared since u are in this business for 3 years..paper ii will be the key…
I forgot my roll no, I have my registration ID.
Is there any o see the result.
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The link doesn’t work.
Call up Mr. Imran Farid, who is the undersecretary (Exams) at UPSC. Provide him with your Registration ID and Date of Birth, he will give you the roll number. I talked to him yesterday, he noted down my details and when I called him today provided me with my roll number.
P.S. No more suspense. I cleared the prelims. Studying hard for Mains.
Bhai logo ! This time UPSC has asked Graduation percentage while filling application form.This must have some role in PT result as some with 230 not get through n some with 195-210 made it.
Nonsense,,observation
Totally a misnomer !!!!
bakwash band kar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tere jaise student hi upsc ko bdnam karte h!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crap…thanx 4 providing this nonsense info..only GOD can save u :)
hahahahahahahaha…………..
I seriously feel Mrunal should devise a like button !!!!
Totally awesome stats from Minty !!!! Vellpanty \m/
do u know the concept of reserved categories??!
did u ask those who got selected which category rhey fall in???
@gaurav
Absolutly!!! Dear . Pity reservation wale Kabil rahne per bhi sirf 15% ,7% per satisfy hona perta hai unko. Remaining seats per open wale raj kerte hai.Check mains cut off 4 both category.I tkink reservation shuld be reversed 3% WALO ko reservation dena chahiye jo ab 80%seats per raj kar rahi hai. 15%, 7% wale ‘BAHUJAN SAMAJ’ ko open kar dena chahiye- jo asli haqdar hai. Aayi baat samaz main?
Hi Mrunal Sir,
This was my third attempt,i cudnt clear .last time my marks were 191.this time i added it to 245+ as per various keys.110 to 116 paper1 and 135 to 140 in paper2.my friends who added 235+with the same keys all got thru.i was the person who bubbled A series in paper 2 in the invigilators column because he reminded me..i have not bubbled A SERIES in paper 1 as it was invigilator’s column and i am not sure whether he bubbled it.i asked him he told he would sign and bubble later.expecting 245+ i thot i wud clear but disheartened to find my no missing.is it because of not bubbling my anser sheet was not valued or jus my marks in paper2 below the cut off.Since we have wrote serial no ,codes and all in the papers provided i havent thought about this earlier..people say cut off was very high or UPSC set 140 minimum for paper2.i tried several times to call in the numbers given by upsc.but it was always busy.one of my friends went to UPSC office.there he was told to give a written complaint.but no reply received till now.i am not sure whether i will get a rely about this before Sept .is there any way that i cud make sure my papers were evaluated?if it were because of not bubbling code is there any way to remedy it?please help
write to UPSC with RTI and get it verified. They will not show ur OMR or tell ur marks but maybe they can disclose if your paper was evaluated properly or not. Last year I missed SSC mains because I got ZERO for some reason. Had I known then I could have Filed RTI, got my OMR and muscled with them to rectify the error on their part. You too are now a victim of the carelessness of the Invigilator who got PAID to sit in. Dont let this bastard go away free. DO something for people like me and u, for our sake.
hi.
same incident happened with me dear…………..so i went to UPSC and wrote a letter to concern person.
he assured me that OMR sheets not reject on such issues………….but all this kept me in limbooooo.but i found my roll no’ in list…
to whom you wrote the letter?who is the person concerned?plz tel .i cant go to delhi.but i can fax or do speed post as soon as possible.
hi dear.im running short of time,plz tel who is the concerned person?
hey i hv joined mains test series of pub admn frm vision ias for 2013 but unable 2 qualify prelims in rs 9000 but nt attended a single test if any one wanna buy in rs 7000 pls cntct me @ lovesharma0(atdrate)gmail(dotcom) or 9780900279
I am working with Tata Motors since 2009 July..I first appeared in 2010 prelims and failed by a whisker..Thereafter i decided not to go for further attempt till i was prepared enough to clear CSE with an AIR 1…
I worked from 8 to 5 in the plant and studied 6 to 12or 1 AM.. almost daily…
and the result is i have easily cleared prelims without any coaching/notes/Test Series/mentor/guide/senior….Notes for changed syllabus are 75% percent complete and memorised..I shall be taking medical leave for 3 months from my job to appear in Mains.And with the current level of preparation i am hopeful to get within AIR 200..
ALl the best to every aspirant..
Hi Mr. Shrivastav, I also cleared prelims without any classes. All i have done is self study for last 2 years. you said “75% of new syllabus prepared and memorised ” can you help me too ? I am very confused for new syllabus… !!
Hi mrunal,
having given prelims and not qualified I am completely lost.
was getting around 80 in paper 1 and 160 in paper 2.
Total around 240.
I gave my best as much as I could. Took a lot of help from your blog, did not take coaching… etc. But no idea, what to do now!
Please guide……..
Dont get disheartened boss!!!! We lost only few numbers. We need to make it above 190 in CSAT and prepare well further General studies well again. I too have got some 60 in paper 1 and 160 in paper 2. I haven’t done any preparation as I think one can easily write a paper with a good background. We missed this bus by only a fraction. Max by 20-30 marks. Look for some loopholes in preparation. I had my economics, pub admin and history are very good. But dont have much knowledge in culture, science and bio sciences. Just take note of ur misses and have a much better preparation. It’s simple but a bit of more knowledge reqired
hi. i dont remember my roll number. have my registration id. can you pleaseeee help me in checking my resuts..
Bhai logo ! Year 2006 se 2013 tak pre ka result check karo. Earlier roll number wale jiyada pass huye jiyada roll no. wale kam pass huye. Lekin earlier roll no. ka cut off jiyada hai aur jiyada roll no. walo ka kam. Es saal ka apna result check karo. That is 0 to 1000 roll no. me se 15 pass aur 100000 to 110000 roll no. main se 1 pass. UPSC ka Dice game Hai bhai.
Pls read 0 to 1000 roll no. me se 150 pass aur 100000 to 101000 roll no. main se 10 pass. corrected.
useless statistics. people who submit later are skeptical about their plans.
Madamji! aap logo ne PRE 2013 ke result ki pdf dekhi nahi. dekha hai to jana nahi jana hai to samza nahi. Let me explain (4evrbdy) among roll no o-1000 174 QUALIFIED 4MAINS MEANS 1 OUT OFF 5.74 CANDIDATES OK. MATLAB THIS GUYS HAVE MORE CALIBER TO CRACK CSAT THAN OTHER UPSC NE CSAT KE PAHLE SECRET EXAM LEKAR PATA KAR LIYA. NOW FROM 80000-80100 ROLL NUMBERS ONLY 21 GET SELECTED MEANS 1 OUT OFF 47.61 CANDIDATES ,enka caliber bhi UPSC ne CSAT pahle pata kar liya tha.
UPSC ka selection formula : Ekkad Bakkad Bumbay Bo 80 ,90 Pure 100 100 Me Laga Dhaga Candidate Nikal ke Bhaga.
Ke baar result ki file observe karo SAMAZ main aayega koi cut off nahi hota.
FROM 80000-81000. CORRECTED.
let me explain …… actually the initial roll nos are allotted to candidates who opt for delhi as the centre ….. and most of the aspirants write their exam from delhi as they prepare from there ….. that’s why large no of candidates pass from delhi and there is a little difference between their roll nos .
@ minty……brother you are totally awesome………your sense of humor is outstanding…hahahahahahaha….you made my today…
Dost tumhari observation sahi hai…aisa isliye hai because those who apply first get the earlier roll numbers.
n mostly those who are very much expecting to write mains apply earlier,bt Why so?
Thats because(FOE EXAMPLE)being in Delhi if a candidate having earlier roll no gets her/his centre for mains exam in UPSC bhawan only n is thus saved from distant/poor condition centres.
may be there are other resons also but this is a major one.
SO conclusion is DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON SUCH STATISTICS. Best of LUCK FOR UR PREPARATION.
Please see some interesting thread on cut off discussion after prelim exam..This guy Baldev seems to be quite close in predicting cut off but was not taken seriously by many optimists..
Manish K Y
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Mrunal i know its a silly thing to ask till upsc declares itself but what do you think is the probable cut-off range for prelims this year.Can we expect the same 15-20 marks rise in cut-off this year too just like previous year or we can have an unexpectedly high cut-off because the papers were a little bit easy as compared to previous years?
Baldev
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Cut off is a factor of (1) number of people who appeared in the exam and their overall performance + (2) total seats + (3) level of question paper. Taking (1) and (2) as constants (since there is not much change in both from last year), cut off will be decided by (3) ie level of question asked.
So if in 2012, cut off was 209, in 2013, the question paper was much easier. The thumb rule to apply is to give 0.5 marks to every easy question over previous year. So if there were 30 easier questions than previous year, then cut off goes up by 15 marks and so on. Even though âeasy questionâ is quite subjective, but it can be made out by number of questions from the static/ conventional part as that is same for everyone to study from common source. As this year, current affairs was almost negligible, questions were asked from common source which makes the paper much easier and hence tough to qualify.
In my view, Paper-I (General Studies)was a much much easier than last year and hence will prove to be the game changer. Even though in GSAT there were 30 odd reasoning questions, rest was quite easy. Coaching class samples are quite handy as they represent the well prepared candidates and can provide a mean of the average performance of the class. From my friends, i have gathered that in Vajiram, the average score is 250 marks, although someone claims to have even scored as high as 340. Most have scored between 260-170 marks.
In Vision Ias,average score is around 240 marks, same for some other coaching factories in Mukherjee Nagar. I feel there are many other serious players across India and since paper was âbasic and fundamentalâ in approach without current affairs, cut off is predicted in the range of 245-250 marks (an increase of around 40 marks from 2012)
Manish K Y
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I totally agree with you that the paper was easy and i can easily accept a rise of 30 marks in cutoff but 245-250 is the worst case scenario.Coachings generally boast 15-20 marks more than their average.Thanks for such a critical analysis
ratpack
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kaafi weird and irresponsible analysis hai, i must say. even if upsc deliberately wanted or wants to increase the cut off exhorbitantly, going beyond 230-232 will be ridiculous. âRidiculousâ; i repeat. i am myself getting around 250 and feel stabbed in the heart when people come with some f*****g stupid opinions. matlab kuch bhi???!!
how many people do you think are posting their âon steroidsâ score online?? only those who are scoring around 240-270. how many are there exactly? no one knows, but can be estimated that around 6000 all over india. so the rest of 6k-7k are going where?? people getting 210-220 are shying away from putting up their scores online due to the added pressure of some âgods of preâ declaring their marvellous scores here and there.
god forbid, if the cut off goes near 240, i will make it a personal mision of my life to do very bad things to the people responsible for it.. ;-)
P.S.- khud jeeyo, dusro ko bhi jeene do..
Manish K Y
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yes i too think that 250 is the worst case scenario but phir bhi jis tarah ankh band kar lene se andhera nahi ho jata usi tarah hamare bolne se cutoff kam nahi ho jata⌠but still anyone getting more than 225(general) should think about mains
ratpack
you know, itâs very easy to inflate the cut offâs when you know that you are scoring well above it. câmon, itâs in human nature to take the place of primacy and dictate terms. i completely understood your point and i also understand that if the cut off goes anywhere near 250, i will fail miserably, and will be powerless to change that situation. but i have this gut feeling,and the scorers below it plz donât curse me coz itâs just a feeling, that cut off would be around 230.
Cut off means the least marks at which the last candidate is selected. There will be a group of people who will score not more than 225-230 and that is what my prognosis relies on.
Baldev
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Unfortunately, your predictions are based on fiction, not facts. You have just been stating your âpersonal opinionâ rather than citing any facts. I have been in constant touch with the appeared candidates and what i wrote in my previous comment was based on hard facts. Things like âgut feelingâ fail miserably before hard and cruel facts.. What makes you think that the last selected candidate will not be scoring more than 230 marks?
I suggest you venture out in the heat and visit some coaching institutes where you will find loads of candidates who appeared..discuss this with them and come back and then share your opinionâŚ
Exam was conceptual, not factual or analyticalâŚElse how you explain so many people scoring more than 300 marks this time?
Interesting discussion thread on cut off..after prelim exam..Baldev was quite right…
Manish K Y
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Mrunal i know its a silly thing to ask till upsc declares itself but what do you think is the probable cut-off range for prelims this year.Can we expect the same 15-20 marks rise in cut-off this year too just like previous year or we can have an unexpectedly high cut-off because the papers were a little bit easy as compared to previous years?
Baldev
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Cut off is a factor of (1) number of people who appeared in the exam and their overall performance + (2) total seats + (3) level of question paper. Taking (1) and (2) as constants (since there is not much change in both from last year), cut off will be decided by (3) ie level of question asked.
So if in 2012, cut off was 209, in 2013, the question paper was much easier. The thumb rule to apply is to give 0.5 marks to every easy question over previous year. So if there were 30 easier questions than previous year, then cut off goes up by 15 marks and so on. Even though âeasy questionâ is quite subjective, but it can be made out by number of questions from the static/ conventional part as that is same for everyone to study from common source. As this year, current affairs was almost negligible, questions were asked from common source which makes the paper much easier and hence tough to qualify.
In my view, Paper-I (General Studies)was a much much easier than last year and hence will prove to be the game changer. Even though in GSAT there were 30 odd reasoning questions, rest was quite easy. Coaching class samples are quite handy as they represent the well prepared candidates and can provide a mean of the average performance of the class. From my friends, i have gathered that in Vajiram, the average score is 250 marks, although someone claims to have even scored as high as 340. Most have scored between 260-170 marks.
In Vision Ias,average score is around 240 marks, same for some other coaching factories in Mukherjee Nagar. I feel there are many other serious players across India and since paper was âbasic and fundamentalâ in approach without current affairs, cut off is predicted in the range of 245-250 marks (an increase of around 40 marks from 2012)
Manish K Y
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I totally agree with you that the paper was easy and i can easily accept a rise of 30 marks in cutoff but 245-250 is the worst case scenario.Coachings generally boast 15-20 marks more than their average.Thanks for such a critical analysis
ratpack
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kaafi weird and irresponsible analysis hai, i must say. even if upsc deliberately wanted or wants to increase the cut off exhorbitantly, going beyond 230-232 will be ridiculous. âRidiculousâ; i repeat. i am myself getting around 250 and feel stabbed in the heart when people come with some f*****g stupid opinions. matlab kuch bhi???!!
how many people do you think are posting their âon steroidsâ score online?? only those who are scoring around 240-270. how many are there exactly? no one knows, but can be estimated that around 6000 all over india. so the rest of 6k-7k are going where?? people getting 210-220 are shying away from putting up their scores online due to the added pressure of some âgods of preâ declaring their marvellous scores here and there.
god forbid, if the cut off goes near 240, i will make it a personal mision of my life to do very bad things to the people responsible for it.. ;-)
P.S.- khud jeeyo, dusro ko bhi jeene do..
Manish K Y
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yes i too think that 250 is the worst case scenario but phir bhi jis tarah ankh band kar lene se andhera nahi ho jata usi tarah hamare bolne se cutoff kam nahi ho jata⌠but still anyone getting more than 225(general) should think about mains
ratpack
you know, itâs very easy to inflate the cut offâs when you know that you are scoring well above it. câmon, itâs in human nature to take the place of primacy and dictate terms. i completely understood your point and i also understand that if the cut off goes anywhere near 250, i will fail miserably, and will be powerless to change that situation. but i have this gut feeling,and the scorers below it plz donât curse me coz itâs just a feeling, that cut off would be around 230.
Cut off means the least marks at which the last candidate is selected. There will be a group of people who will score not more than 225-230 and that is what my prognosis relies on.
Baldev
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Unfortunately, your predictions are based on fiction, not facts. You have just been stating your âpersonal opinionâ rather than citing any facts. I have been in constant touch with the appeared candidates and what i wrote in my previous comment was based on hard facts. Things like âgut feelingâ fail miserably before hard and cruel facts.. What makes you think that the last selected candidate will not be scoring more than 230 marks?
I suggest you venture out in the heat and visit some coaching institutes where you will find loads of candidates who appeared..discuss this with them and come back and then share your opinionâŚ
Exam was conceptual, not factual or analyticalâŚElse how you explain so many people scoring more than 300 marks this time?
See crying won’t help you.Try your best and all those failed accept the reality.Please stop those rumour bombs.IITians and IIM guys are not Aliens.They work much harder and smarter.They guy who asked about pinning graduation marks in prelims please dont be sceptical and start rumours.It will demotivatr many candidates
For gods sake don’t spread rumours.I wrote the preliminary, for the first time and i scored 270 marks and qualified.I didnt have coaching,and i presume it was sheer common-sense and reading The Hindu and surfing helped me to achieve it.I am doubtful about clearing the mains though
plz suggest me book for paper 2 and ecology book for prelims preparation..
There are so many books available in the market ,but considering the fact that most of the prelims questions are being taken out from NCERT and other Govt published books, I would suggest you to go for NCERT Biology Class XII (4th or 5th chapter) and NIOS book on environment sciences(this will lay a strong base for mains Environment paper) for Ecology and Environment…
Thank you.
Hello dude,
Sorry for the late reply.Well each of us are different so our strategies will also be different.anyway i will tell about mine.As the guy has written,make use of the NCERT’s.They are your bible.Then in my case internet was a big help, and paper cuttings from news papers for ecology.And for second paper,I used RS Agarwal’s.But i guess it depends up on sheer common sense.
Anyway be confident.You can do it
All the best dude
One thing exam is more polity-economics oriented this year.So depth in those fields may help you.
best of luck who was pass in prilms upsc. I wish to all succesfull candates they will write mains it is succes all the best.
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