- How to file RTI to know the score?
- Step 1: Copy paste the draft RTI application
- Step 2: IPO worth 10 Rupees.
- Step 3: Envelop
- UPSC has announced the CSAT-2012 result, Click on following link to see the PDF containing roll numbers of successful candidates
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9AJvFSzIyiwYWgwZ01JX0xlQ3c
- Those of you, who [unfortunately] failed in the UPSC CSAT 2012 exam: there is no point in joining the cut off speculation game prevalent on various online forums- it will only add insult to your injury. Many of you will feel “I ticked answers worth XYZ marks and still not selected, but another person online who claims to have ticked answers worth only ABC marks is selected.” So browsing such forums and threads will only increase your agony.
- If you want to find out the truth about what went wrong in your case -“How many marks did UPSC actually give to you and what was marks of the last guy who got selected in your category?” then better ask UPSC to give you the photocopy of your OMR answersheet and the official answerkey and the number of marks officially allotted to you and to the last guy in your category.
- Everyone who fails in the prelims, either fades away or gives another attempt. All these years, this attitude from our side has turned UPSC into a Lord Curzon- otherwise what is so sacred about prelims that UPSC doesn’t publish the marks of every candidate? If only 10000 failed candidates file RTIs asking for marks, the UPSC staff will get tired digging through computer database to take print outs of every RTI applicant’s marks and their boss will get tired signing each RTI-reply letter, and next time they’ll upload the result + marks of each candidate right on their official website to save themselves from this fatigue. (or atleast I hope so.)
How to file RTI to know the score?
Please note that, UPSC might not immediately the give the information citing “the Examination process is not yet complete, because the Civil Service Exam 2012 will complete only when final merit list is published somewhere in April-May 2013.
But doesn’t hurt trying the luck for Rs.15 (10 for IPO and 5 for postal stamps). So, here is the standard procedure to file an RTI to UPSC, inquiring about marks. (IPS LCE candidates can also use this letter, just replace CSAT-2012 to IPS LCE 2012)
Step 1: Copy paste the draft RTI application
Copy paste following letter in your MS Word program (or manually write this in a plain paper.)
Replace XYZ with your name and roll number at appropriate places.
XYZ,
Insert your name and Address
To,
CPIO-Joint Director (Examination),
UPSC,
New Delhi
Sub: Application under RTI 2005, about CSAT 2012 Result
Sir,
Provide me the following information regarding Civil Services (Preliminary) Examination 2012 [also known as Civil Service Aptitude Test (CSAT) 2012.]
- Official Answerkeys for Paper I and Paper II.
- Photocopies of OMR Answersheets of Roll Number XYZ.
- Marks allotted to Roll Number XYZ in each paper.
- Cut off marks of each category (Gen,ST,ST,OBC,Ph) in CSAT 2012.
Along with this letter, I’ve attached the Indian Postal Order Worth Rs.10, as RTI Application fees.
Yours sincerely,
XYZ
Step 2: IPO worth 10 Rupees.
Go to nearest post office, ask them to provide a Rs.10 Indian Postal Order.
Write “Accounts Officer, UPSC, New Delhi” on it.
Write the date and Tear out the slip from left hand side as evidence. and ask the clerk to “cross” (put stamp on) the IPO.
Step 3: Envelop
From the same post office buy an envelope worth Rs.5 OR take a blank evenlope and affix stamps worth Rs.5 as postage charges
Now slip the Drafted RTI application Letter + the Rs.10 IPO in this envelop and send it to following address
Union public service Commission (UPSC),
Dholpur House,
Shah Jahan Road,
New Delhi-110069
Wait for 40 days. (yea the RTI act says 30 days but the timer starts only after UPSC receives your letter. 10 days are added by me, considering the time it takes to send and receive letter to and fro)
And please note down the details of date when you sent the letter + serial of IPO as evidence.
Update: September-02-2012
Some readers filled the RTI and UPSC didnot provide them the necessary information. So what to do next?
Answer is in the following article
https://mrunal.org/2012/09/rti-faa-upsc.html
Dear friends,I was busy for last some days ,so failed to reply you all. Bdw I am very impressed by all the words that Armaan has put. Armaan, my dear friend,this country belongs to you and it does need you. you are not born to be marginalized in your own country. Gone are the days of silence. Gone are the days of bowing before injustice. stand up with a virile gesture to cross the precipice . And as a matter of fact GOVT is deciding over increasing the no of attempts and age relaxation of all the categories and make a parity among them. So you continue your study along with the fight for the right cause.Triumph will be yours….
Dear Neo007, caste does play a very significant role in all sectors of employment except at those sectors,where efficiency is worshiped,cherished and uncompromised . And Civil Services falls under the former,therefore CASTE plays a huge role in CS career. Apart from relaxation in selection, there is also flexibility in promotion for backward caste groups. but caste has no role in transfer related matters.
@ STRIVE FOR JUSTICE-Thanks for your consistent support sir. its very soothing and encouraging to hear the word of reality from some sections of those in authority and thus carry a lot of weight for those like me who believe in realization of rationality. its not an easy survival even at the level of psychological existence in midst of everyday face to face encounter with some of the most unaccountable happening in the country or 1.2 billion, something which disgrace the idea of demographic dividend. Easy conclusions come handy but they don’t survive long and thus vulnerable for graceless demise. whether the application of it will suit the one of the most haunting reality of country or will keep on sleeping in slumber, is something which only time will tell. and we all will be witness to that. Thanks once again sir. TC.
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Hi Mrunal,
I had also filed an RTI application to UPSC for CSAT 2012, got a reply back that I did not sign my RTI letter and that they cannot provide info at this stage because CSE 2012 is not yet complete. They did not mention section 8 (1) (i) of RTI 2005 in their reply.
I would like to know whether to send another RTI, this time signed, or to file appeal against CPIO’s order to FAA?
Please go through the link below.CIC tells UPSC to disclose cut-off for prelims before mains and interview
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/tell-candidates-civil-services-exam-prelims-marks-cic-to-upsc/936127/
hello Mr Armaan sharma
sir,hats off to yours intellectual abilities to dissect the sensitive matter of “menace of caste’ in an impeccable manner. indeed i, appreciate,you to the hilt, and it would certainly not be exaggeration, if i say that, you,speak like markandey katju. on,this issue.
Thx lot mrinal !!!! you atre really doing very meaningful & fantastic jobs… god always bless u !!!
HI Mrunal,
Can a SC candidate(who has appeared in his category in 2012 PT and also cleared it) appear as a GEN candidate next year. How will be his attempts counted then? Also, can this question be asked from the UPSC through and RTI?
Thanks,
Neha
yes- can change category every year.
yes- attempts will be counted. if he has already given 5 attempts as SC then he cannot appear as Gen, because Gen allow only 4 attempts and he has crossed it.
yes- you can file RTI.
Hi friends, after a long duration i am here to share some interesting facts about human behavior.Recently I met my college junior who was once guided by me for preparing the civil services examination. this year he was selected in CSE-2011 and he entered into IAS.I remember, last year when i was in delhi for some days in November,he had just written his last mains exam(4th attempt). He shared his frustration of being a general category student and he had a tremendous resentment against the restriction of no of attempts of 4 for general category candidates.Because then he was uncertain about his result. And after his unexpected selection in the exam,I saw his interview in a magazine,where he says, ” in my view,4 attempts are sufficient” . When he came to visit me last week,I asked him, whether the success or failure excavates someone’s real personality, or its the opportunistic personality that waits for an opportunity to spread its real color. He feel ashamed and speechless. I an sure U might have come across such Toppers, whose voices changes at the blink of success. Even they suggest some authors or books which they might not have seen during their preparation or they only heard from teachers.Therefore I wonder how UPSC claims to be the recruiter of the best talents (like those )for this services. Because,such opportunistic servants will not render services to the common man rather they will take the governance to its nadir.
can i acquire copy of omr of other candidates who given competitive exams or can i know there numbers(written+interview)?
sir am not satisfied with my rrb PO and clerk mark ….so i want to recheck my copy please suggest me what can i do and what is the process of copy recheck through R.T.I. and I.B.P.S.
YA RTI GUD OPTION
sir am not satisfied with my RRB PO and clerk marks ……so i want to recheck my copy please suggest me what can i do and what is the process of copy recheck through R.T.I.and I.B.P.S.
dear sir,
i am a B. PHARMA graduate i want to know whether b. pharma graduate are eligible for INDIAN FOREST SERVICE (UPSC) ? i contact to UPSC regarding this but they codnt give clear answer and say that u hav to conferm from MINISTRY OF ENV.& FORESTRY. The ministry say to look notification, from notification it is not clear cutt..
kindly clear me about it.
thank u so much.
dharmendra
dear mrunal,i want to file an RTI to assam public service commission.could u plz tell me to whom i should address in case of pcs.thanking you,manash
PIO,
Assam Public Service Commission.
THANKS..once again appreciate ur noble efforts.
dear mrunal
i am a failed candidate of ESIC Dy. Director(Admn).
Whom should I fail the RTI application.
if UPSC conducted that exam, just address it to “CPIO, UPSC”
mrunal
thak you very much
dear munal sir,
kindly conferm me that are B. pharma graduate eligible for INDIAN FOREST SERVICE?
PLZ dear sir!!!!!
thnx lottz
answer is most likely “no.” because pharma mark-sheets don’t explicitly mention any subjects required for IFS minimum edu requirements.
but you might want to file R.T.I to get official word of UPSC on that.
thx munal sir
But thr r some candidate of course like biotechnology, industrial microbiology, are clear ifs exam and selected finaly…….on the basis of thr degree equilant to BOTANY..so y not our degree can be equilant to B. Sc chemistry???????????
plz reply
Will BDS(Dental) graduates be eligible for IFS exam??
DEAR MOHIT
CORE MEDICAL GRADUATE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR IFS LIKE MBBS,BDS,BAMS,BHMS.BUMS,BPT…..as i know!!!!!
Dear Mrunal,
To the some extent, most of the recruitment agencies in India are Transparent, that is, like SSC, some SPSC’s disclose cut off marks, provide key answers & copy of OMR sheet, give good response to RTI application etc. But Why the UPSC so reluctant to work in the same way? What is the rationality of the UPSC behind this stand? Is there any National interest that preventing the UPSC to be more transparent? Will there be any negative consequence if the UPSC become more transparent?
Although the UPSC has earned trust and faith of majority of aspirants due to its outstanding integrity and impartiality, still some doubts are there in many peoples mind. Pleae explain your opinion.
Thank you.
ACTUALY MRUNAL,
I PERSONALY MEET UPSC IFS EXAM DIRECTOR…SHE SAY THAT U HV TO CONFERM FROM MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOREST….!!!I HAV FILE RTI AT MOEF AND WAITING FOR REPLY….!!!
WHAT U SAY….
IF UGC CONFERM OUR B. PHARMA DEGREE IS EQUIVALENT TO ANY SCIENCE DEGREE THN IT IS OK…
SO WAT I HAV TO DO???
B. Pharma equals Science Degree. You are eligible for IFoS Exam Yaar :)
Dentist and Doctors are also science degree but ineligible for IFoS.
The official requirement for Indian Forest Service Exam is :
A Bachelor’s degree with at least one of the subjects namely, Animal Husbandry & Veterinary Science, Botany, Chemistry, Geology, Mathematics, Physics, Statistics and Zoology or a Bachelor’s degree in Agriculture or Forestry or Engineering of a recognised university or equivalent.
http://upsc.gov.in/general/ifs.htm
dear sudhir,
How can u sure about it….plz read ifs eligibility notice thn conferm to me plzzzz!!
r u sure about it?
even UPSC ddnt giv me clear answer.
so i had file RTI to ministry of envirom n forest…letz c………..!!!
dear vivek…
what u say about b. pharma candidate?
n y r not medical graduate eligible for IFS?
plz giv ur view
Can any one confirm to me that B. pharma graduates are eligible to IFS or not????
plz
DEAR SIR!!!
B. PHARMA DEGREE CAN B EQUIVALENT TO B. SC CHEMISTRY????
PLZ REPLY AS SOON
THNX
for private companies=yes.(in most cases).
for Government jobs= you’ve to confirm it with the particular office. Because if there is online-application system, your application may get rejected.
sir,student can give their interview only in English or in Hindhi language in IFS
you can give it in English or in Hindi depending on your desire.
Sir,
I attend the SSC FCI exam and according to answer published by SSC I scored 18 marks more than cut off but my name is not declared for next round . So, I want to file RTI .
Please tell me the process for same.
DEAR MRUNAL SIR
I file a RTI to ministry of environment & forest regarding eligibility of IFS for B.Pharma graduate..now itz over more then 30 day i didnt get any kind of responce from ministry. now what i have to do for getting proper and written information regarding this???plz guide me…
sud i file RTI again to MEOF???
i think they forwarded the application to UPSC after five days. so wait for some more days. if no reply, then file an application to the FAA, MoEF “i had filled R.T.I on so and so date with xyz number IPO, have not recieved reply.”